Back to the Axis side!

Penelope_Grey · 03-30-07, 10:57 AM

Tried being on the good guys team, but its just no good. SH4 has put me right off it, with its bugs and its stupid difficult damage control interface and sinking like a brick submarine when there is no reason to. So till SH4 gets sorted, as far as I am concerned it can stay in dry dock and we will leave the Submarining to the U-Boats. At least they don't take 10 minutes to dive, and they can go deeper than the American boats can.

They are also grey.

I just can't be doing with SH4, I tried dabbling I tried getting used to it, but I may as well have been trying to dig a trench with a teaspoon, U-Boats all the way. Sh4 can get stuffed.

AVGWarhawk · 03-30-07, 11:03 AM

You have returned to the darkside. The force is strong with this one. Bugs or not, I'm enjoying SH4 quite a bit

Corsair · 03-30-07, 11:04 AM

Welcome back in the cold Atlantic...

There are still a few aircraft carriers waiting for you.

Brag · 03-30-07, 11:18 AM

Welcome back, Penny,
You're just in time for my party floating somwhere on this page

danlisa · 03-30-07, 11:23 AM

WooHoo, welcome back

Drinks all round!

joea · 03-30-07, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

Tried being on the good guys team, but its just no good. SH4 has put me right off it, with its bugs and its stupid difficult damage control interface and sinking like a brick submarine when there is no reason to. So till SH4 gets sorted, as far as I am concerned it can stay in dry dock and we will leave the Submarining to the U-Boats. At least they don't take 10 minutes to dive, and they can go deeper than the American boats can.

They are also grey.

I just can't be doing with SH4, I tried dabbling I tried getting used to it, but I may as well have been trying to dig a trench with a teaspoon, U-Boats all the way. Sh4 can get stuffed.

Well welcome back, but I don't think you understand some of the problems are not...US subs did submerge slower...plus the damage model has some improvments, for example you can fix some stuff temporarily (stop flooding) but can't submerge that is more realistic than what we have in SH3 currently. Also think some folks may be attacked by air at PD when at high TC...meaning planes can spot you in good weather!

Anyway, welcome back I am still in the Atlantic for now too.

Penelope_Grey · 03-30-07, 12:17 PM

I know the American subs took a while to submerge, but well, I'm used to my U-boats!

I can't get to grips with the damage control on SH4, I posted about it, and I can't see there anything seriously wrong with the sub, but its still wrecked, so, I'm done with SH4 till its all sorted. SH3 is the only subs for me.

P_Funk · 03-30-07, 04:52 PM

Welcome back, Mish Moneypenny.

Rykaird · 03-30-07, 05:30 PM

I am also back into my lovely VII. I will return to the Pacific when the next patch is released.

Then, if I have the same number of crashes as I experience now, I will, like some mutated underwater groundhog, spot my shadow and scurry back to SHIII for six more weeks of winter in the North Atlantic.

Frenssen · 03-30-07, 05:43 PM

Another turncoat here, and I haven`t explored GWX 100% yet. Crash diving those big, clumsy US boats without a working air warning radar is a nightmare. I want my cramped, smelly VIIC back

joea · 03-30-07, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

I know the American subs took a while to submerge, but well, I'm used to my U-boats!

I can't get to grips with the damage control on SH4, I posted about it, and I can't see there anything seriously wrong with the sub, but its still wrecked, so, I'm done with SH4 till its all sorted. SH3 is the only subs for me.

Yea well don't want to get into a debate but that was answered, there is some level of complexity in SH4 damage that is not in SH3. Namely the concept of "temporary" repairs that allow you to get back home but not to dive...not hard to understand is it? Anyway, it is true the interface is different.

Penelope_Grey · 03-30-07, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by joea

Yea well don't want to get into a debate but that was answered, there is some level of complexity in SH4 damage that is not in SH3. Namely the concept of "temporary" repairs that allow you to get back home but not to dive...not hard to understand is it? Anyway, it is true the interface is different.

True, it was answered, but...

It is complicated... because where does it tell me if it is safe to dive or not? It doesn't. Therefore when I dive and my engines don't work and I sink like a stone how do I know what is going on, is it the boat is knackered, or is it bugs in the programming? How can you tell the difference? Which is what is most irritating about SH4, I'm sorry for my language but to cut a long story short, SH4 is crap and I don't like it. I was nuts to think I could play both U-Boats and American Subs.

joea · 03-30-07, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

... SH4 is crap and I don't like it. I was nuts to think I could play both U-Boats and American Subs.

Ummm no it's not...its got potential. Don't see what is so dramatic about playing 2 different sides but whatever...

ref · 03-31-07, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by joea

Namely the concept of "temporary" repairs that allow you to get back home but not to dive...not hard to understand is it? Anyway, it is true the interface is different.

For what I've read so far none of the devs has stated that "temporary repairs" is a feature, for the moment it's just a guess from the players, hoping that's not another thing that isn't working as it should.
BTW, did you tried to repair the damn AA gun?, it either could be repaired or it couldn't, there's no temporary patches for that.

Ref

Rykaird · 03-31-07, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by joea

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Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

I know the American subs took a while to submerge, but well, I'm used to my U-boats!

I can't get to grips with the damage control on SH4, I posted about it, and I can't see there anything seriously wrong with the sub, but its still wrecked, so, I'm done with SH4 till its all sorted. SH3 is the only subs for me.

Yea well don't want to get into a debate but that was answered, there is some level of complexity in SH4 damage that is not in SH3. Namely the concept of "temporary" repairs that allow you to get back home but not to dive...not hard to understand is it? Anyway, it is true the interface is different.

The damage model for SHIV is like a lot of other functions in SHIV - it has a lot of promise, but it has some current issues that make it almost unworkable. Repair prioritization, linked systems, etc. are all going to be very cool once a some of the kinks get worked out - for example, the kink Ms. P. is experiencing, where everything shows as OK but the boat is actually on the absolute edge of total destruction.

I didn't come back to SHIII/GWX because I hate SHIV. I came back because SHIV isn't ready yet. I think it will be a better game. Someday.

03-30-07, 10:57 AM	#1
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Back to the Axis side! Tried being on the good guys team, but its just no good. SH4 has put me right off it, with its bugs and its stupid difficult damage control interface and sinking like a brick submarine when there is no reason to. So till SH4 gets sorted, as far as I am concerned it can stay in dry dock and we will leave the Submarining to the U-Boats. At least they don't take 10 minutes to dive, and they can go deeper than the American boats can. They are also grey. I just can't be doing with SH4, I tried dabbling I tried getting used to it, but I may as well have been trying to dig a trench with a teaspoon, U-Boats all the way. Sh4 can get stuffed. __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

03-30-07, 11:03 AM	#2
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,254 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	You have returned to the darkside. The force is strong with this one. Bugs or not, I'm enjoying SH4 quite a bit __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

03-30-07, 11:04 AM	#3
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danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	WooHoo, welcome back Drinks all round! __________________

03-30-07, 12:17 PM	#7
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I know the American subs took a while to submerge, but well, I'm used to my U-boats! I can't get to grips with the damage control on SH4, I posted about it, and I can't see there anything seriously wrong with the sub, but its still wrecked, so, I'm done with SH4 till its all sorted. SH3 is the only subs for me. __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

03-30-07, 04:52 PM	#8
P_Funk Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 2,537 Downloads: 129 Uploads: 0	Welcome back, Mish Moneypenny. __________________

03-30-07, 05:30 PM	#9
Rykaird Weps Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 356 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	I am also back into my lovely VII. I will return to the Pacific when the next patch is released. Then, if I have the same number of crashes as I experience now, I will, like some mutated underwater groundhog, spot my shadow and scurry back to SHIII for six more weeks of winter in the North Atlantic.

03-30-07, 05:43 PM	#10
Frenssen Sparky Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 155 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Another turncoat here, and I haven`t explored GWX 100% yet. Crash diving those big, clumsy US boats without a working air warning radar is a nightmare. I want my cramped, smelly VIIC back