TDC speed

[Pratt&Whitney]

I tried to use the method to estimate speed like the manual says: When everything else is ready, I select speed mode, and then clock and start it. After 2 minutes I stop it. The manual says, I should now get a speed estimate on the dial, but it remains on zero. What is wrong? Is this a bug?

Other issue: Manual says, that you can ask crew to calculate solution, like in SH3, but I haven't found a way to do it so far. Is this a feature, that has been dropped?
I really miss the crew management of SH3. Commanding officers is fun and feels realistic.

[ryuzu]

Originally Posted by Pratt&Whitney

I tried to use the method to estimate speed like the manual says: When everything else is ready, I select speed mode, and then clock and start it. After 2 minutes I stop it. The manual says, I should now get a speed estimate on the dial, but it remains on zero. What is wrong? Is this a bug?

Other issue: Manual says, that you can ask crew to calculate solution, like in SH3, but I haven't found a way to do it so far. Is this a feature, that has been dropped?
I really miss the crew management of SH3. Commanding officers is fun and feels realistic.

Yes to 1.

Don't know to 2nd.

r.

[Pratt&Whitney]

Also one thing, the manual says that once you have lock on target, you can move the periscope to the section of the ship you want the torpedo to hit, but I haven't got this working.

[Banquet]

There are plenty of things that don't work like the manual says they should unfortunately.

For the TDC speed calculation bug I would urge the devs to release a hotfix patch asap. They may have already fixed this and be working on other patch issues. If that is the case please just release the speed fix now.

Yesterday I fired all 12 torps in my S-18 and they all missed despite taking my time to get into a great firing position. Now I'm know I am not very good at manual TDC at the best of times but trying to estimate the speed without the stopwatch feature is made more frustrating by the highly inaccurate range measurement tool.

[Pratt&Whitney]

While I think SH3 being just perfect, I am little dissapointed to SH4. A working concept has been redone and not nearly as well as it was. I am seriously considerint to keep up with SH3

[joea]

Originally Posted by Pratt&Whitney

While I think SH3 being just perfect, I am little dissapointed to SH4. A working concept has been redone and not nearly as well as it was. I am seriously considerint to keep up with SH3

SH3 is very good (not perfect) now, it was not perfect when it came out!!

[ryuzu]

Originally Posted by Banquet

There are plenty of things that don't work like the manual says they should unfortunately.

For the TDC speed calculation bug I would urge the devs to release a hotfix patch asap. They may have already fixed this and be working on other patch issues. If that is the case please just release the speed fix now.

Yesterday I fired all 12 torps in my S-18 and they all missed despite taking my time to get into a great firing position. Now I'm know I am not very good at manual TDC at the best of times but trying to estimate the speed without the stopwatch feature is made more frustrating by the highly inaccurate range measurement tool.

In my experience, the Stadimeter works well enough when used correctly.

So I'd suggest you use the auto TDC. If you don't want to manually determine speed, then there's no reason to have manual TDC on, since speed determination is the only tricky part.

r.

[rulle34]

Originally Posted by ryuzu

In my experience, the Stadimeter works well enough when used correctly.r.

How do you mean "works well enough when used correctly"??
Is there a way to use this "correctly" that you know about in the manual mode or do you mean it works well enough when you have auto TDC?

[Banquet]

Originally Posted by ryuzu

In my experience, the Stadimeter works well enough when used correctly.

So I'd suggest you use the auto TDC. If you don't want to manually determine speed, then there's no reason to have manual TDC on, since speed determination is the only tricky part.

r.

Well, firstly I'm not talking about the Stadimeter, I'm talking about the stopwatch.

Secondly, I'm sure actual submarine crew had the use of an accurate 'ruler' to calculate the speed/movement over time with, which we don't appear to have available in SH4 (the range tool is highly inaccurate)

Thirdly, you may consider it not worth using manual TDC if you don't work out the speed manually.. I consider it to add a great deal of challenge over auto TDC even if the stopwatch worked. There are some functions that would be performed by other crew members!

[Chrall]

Originally Posted by ryuzu

In my experience, the Stadimeter works well enough when used correctly.

I don't know how you came to that conclusion. The mast length is clearly wrong for various ships in SH4. I had huge problem using the stadimeter on the Nagara Maru "Large Modern Composite Freighter", it was impossible to get the right range, no wonder when the Recognition Manual says 30m when it really is 36.5m. It wasn't until Krupp fixed this (link) I could use the stadimeter fully. Sure this might not matter at close range but at 1000m and up you'll run into problem.

[joea]

Originally Posted by Pratt&Whitney

I really miss the crew management of SH3. Commanding officers is fun and feels realistic.

BTW crew management is more realistic in SH4. Captains did not tell their men to go to bed.