How's the enemy AI

nikimcbee · 03-18-07, 07:22 PM

So what's the word on the AI? Is it historically accurate? I wish FEDEX would hurry up and get here.

marky · 03-18-07, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

So what's the word on the AI? Is it historically accurate? I wish FEDEX would hurry up and get here.

i cant wait and see

but im curious wat does ur sig mean?

Paajtor · 03-19-07, 05:52 AM

Nostalgia, nostalgia! Your children's portrait, melancholy the first track! Nostalgia, nostalgia! On the hope of that, on the love byloy!

something like that :hmm:

Gammel · 03-19-07, 06:05 AM

Today nooneis able to programm ai controlled ships that are performing 100% historically accurate, and if it would be possible we would have not enough powerfull computers for it. (rest of the game has also be computed too)

It´s about creating an illusion for the player that the "ai" vessles are performing
like they are controlled by a human crew. Especially making the ai imperfect in some cases is a hard task for the programmers.

Personal i hope the develepers had managed to improve the "ai" a little over SH3
and sorted out some flaws it had in that game.
I asked some specific question about current AI in another thread, hoping they´re answered by a happy captain who already has the game...

9th_cow · 03-19-07, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Gammel

Today nooneis able to programm ai controlled ships that are performing 100% historically accurate, and if it would be possible we would have not enough powerfull computers for it. (rest of the game has also be computed too)

It´s about creating an illusion for the player that the "ai" vessles are performing
like they are controlled by a human crew. Especially making the ai imperfect in some cases is a hard task for the programmers.

Personal i hope the develepers had managed to improve the "ai" a little over SH3
and sorted out some flaws it had in that game.
I asked some specific question about current AI in another thread, hoping they´re answered by a happy captain who already has the game...

i can only comment on a brief experience at the moment but i think the destroyers seem somewhat dumber than in SHIII this is based on an engagement during early 41. so may not be a problem in later years.

i entered a convoy ( of wich there are an insane amount) and didnt bother to submerge till i was well within visual range, i didnt exactly sneak in either. and ran along at standard speed. the destroyers never bothered to come back and look for me.

a second one the next day spotted me and engaged with surface guns, i was hit ( no audio confirmation that i took damage) and submerged. dived to about 30 metres, and went silent running.
now i dont think it even made an attack run, i wasnt depth charged and simply made 2 course changes and left the area.

i seem to recall those damn things in SH3 haunting me for hours while i ran around in circles at the bottom of the sea.

ill look into it more when i get back from work. as it is i do find it a little worrying.

StandingCow · 03-19-07, 06:26 AM

Yea, early on it should be very easy as ASW was not good... then later on they start to catch on.

mookiemookie · 03-19-07, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 9th_cow

i can only comment on a brief experience at the moment but i think the destroyers seem somewhat dumber than in SHIII this is based on an engagement during early 41. so may not be a problem in later years.

i entered a convoy ( of wich there are an insane amount) and didnt bother to submerge till i was well within visual range, i didnt exactly sneak in either. and ran along at standard speed. the destroyers never bothered to come back and look for me.

a second one the next day spotted me and engaged with surface guns, i was hit ( no audio confirmation that i took damage) and submerged. dived to about 30 metres, and went silent running.
now i dont think it even made an attack run, i wasnt depth charged and simply made 2 course changes and left the area.

i seem to recall those damn things in SH3 haunting me for hours while i ran around in circles at the bottom of the sea.

ill look into it more when i get back from work. as it is i do find it a little worrying.

Sounds about right for 1941 Japanese destroyer behavior.

Gammel · 03-19-07, 07:03 AM

Thy for your report, 9th_cow!

Looking forward to hear more...

r4iney · 03-19-07, 11:08 AM

In my opinion, the destroyers are smarter in the later years, compared to SHIII. Especially their search patterns once you are spottet

I was spottet trying to take out a few huge tankers that was a part of a larger convoy, took a few of them out, and they hunted me down even though I was on silent running and had deployed decoys. One of the three pinged me badly, and the other two then joined up and rest is history ...

A little sidenote: It doesn't exactly make it easier that most of the chinese see is insanely shallow water, and hard to hide.

Great game by the way, even though it lacks a few features from SHIII.

And I agree with 9th Cow on the convoy part, there are so many that you don't have to search long for them.

The General · 03-19-07, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by r4iney

Great game by the way, even though it lacks a few features from SHIII.

Look, we're all happy for you, we really are, but saying stuff like this is annoying if you don't elaborate on it.

03-18-07, 07:22 PM	#1
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	How's the enemy AI So what's the word on the AI? Is it historically accurate? I wish FEDEX would hurry up and get here. __________________

03-19-07, 05:52 AM	#3
Paajtor The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Dutch mountains Posts: 1,551 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 1	Nostalgia, nostalgia! Your children's portrait, melancholy the first track! Nostalgia, nostalgia! On the hope of that, on the love byloy! something like that :hmm: __________________

03-19-07, 06:05 AM	#4
Gammel Commodore Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 641 Downloads: 276 Uploads: 0	Today nooneis able to programm ai controlled ships that are performing 100% historically accurate, and if it would be possible we would have not enough powerfull computers for it. (rest of the game has also be computed too) It´s about creating an illusion for the player that the "ai" vessles are performing like they are controlled by a human crew. Especially making the ai imperfect in some cases is a hard task for the programmers. Personal i hope the develepers had managed to improve the "ai" a little over SH3 and sorted out some flaws it had in that game. I asked some specific question about current AI in another thread, hoping they´re answered by a happy captain who already has the game... __________________ nie das Boot verlassen

03-19-07, 06:26 AM	#6
StandingCow Weps Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 355 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Yea, early on it should be very easy as ASW was not good... then later on they start to catch on. __________________

03-19-07, 07:03 AM	#8
Gammel Commodore Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 641 Downloads: 276 Uploads: 0	Thy for your report, 9th_cow! Looking forward to hear more... __________________ nie das Boot verlassen

03-19-07, 11:08 AM	#9
r4iney Nub Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	In my opinion, the destroyers are smarter in the later years, compared to SHIII. Especially their search patterns once you are spottet I was spottet trying to take out a few huge tankers that was a part of a larger convoy, took a few of them out, and they hunted me down even though I was on silent running and had deployed decoys. One of the three pinged me badly, and the other two then joined up and rest is history ... A little sidenote: It doesn't exactly make it easier that most of the chinese see is insanely shallow water, and hard to hide. Great game by the way, even though it lacks a few features from SHIII. And I agree with 9th Cow on the convoy part, there are so many that you don't have to search long for them.