Why no 1945 start?

Beery · 02-01-07, 09:56 AM

I just read Subsim's 'first look' at SH4. Can anyone tell me why they're once again restricting campaign starts? There's no reason why a campaign couldn't start in 1945. We had to wait months for a mod to allow us to do it in SH3 - I can't believe we're gonna have to do the same thing in SH4.

Iron Budokan · 02-01-07, 10:01 AM

Historically there were very few ships left to sink in '45, unless you like machine-gunning junks and sampans. Still, I understand your concern. Eh, I'm not overly concerned. Our modders will fix this game just like they did with SH3....

Safe-Keeper · 02-01-07, 11:00 AM

I have this funny feeling there'll be far less to fix in SH4:p.

elanaiba · 02-01-07, 11:02 AM

Modding a 1945 start will be much, much easier than in SH3. Like 5 mins work.

Iron Budokan · 02-01-07, 11:14 AM

I also have a funny feeling there's going to be a lot less to "fix" on SH4 than SH3.

Finback · 02-01-07, 12:15 PM

If this sim is as historical as I think/hope it will be, starting in 45 would probably consist of gunning sampans, charting minefields with FM Sonar, lifeguarding and--very occasionally--happening on something worthy of a torpedo. Also a lot of shallow water stuff. Many of the subs that started in 45 didn't sink anything simply because there was so little left to sink.

Just my 2 cents...

Threadfin · 02-01-07, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elanaiba

Modding a 1945 start will be much, much easier than in SH3. Like 5 mins work.

There ya go, and he would know.

Torplexed · 02-01-07, 08:54 PM

A good number of the Tench class subs slated to be constructed in 1945 were cancelled. Guess even then they saw too few worthy targets left for the existing submarine fleet to continue building and launching more.

peterloo · 02-02-07, 07:02 AM

I think that the above replies have already answered the question... But to make it historical accurate, a 1945 start is necessary...

modders will do their job... No worry

But year 1945 won't be great fun... no more mechants travel from Phillipines to Japan... But there are reinforcements from Japan to Iwo Jima, Okiawa. There is also Operation Ten-Go, the journey of Yamato to the eternity.

Probably there will be pilot rescuring mission (bombers => firebomb Japan)
Tons of sucidal boats / kamikaze planes to deal with
Spying Japanese bases missions
Mining Japanese waters (if there is mining function included)

02-01-07, 09:56 AM	#1
Beery Admiral Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Silver Spring, MD, USA (but still a Yorkshireman at heart - tha can allus tell a Yorkshireman...) Posts: 2,497 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Why no 1945 start? I just read Subsim's 'first look' at SH4. Can anyone tell me why they're once again restricting campaign starts? There's no reason why a campaign couldn't start in 1945. We had to wait months for a mod to allow us to do it in SH3 - I can't believe we're gonna have to do the same thing in SH4. __________________ "More mysterious. Yeah. I'll just try to think, 'Where the hell's the whiskey?'" - Bob Harris, Lost in Translation. "Anyrooad up, ah'll si thi" - Missen.

02-01-07, 10:01 AM	#2
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Historically there were very few ships left to sink in '45, unless you like machine-gunning junks and sampans. Still, I understand your concern. Eh, I'm not overly concerned. Our modders will fix this game just like they did with SH3.... __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

02-01-07, 11:00 AM	#3
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I have this funny feeling there'll be far less to fix in SH4:p. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

02-01-07, 11:14 AM	#5
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	I also have a funny feeling there's going to be a lot less to "fix" on SH4 than SH3. __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

02-01-07, 08:54 PM	#8
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	A good number of the Tench class subs slated to be constructed in 1945 were cancelled. Guess even then they saw too few worthy targets left for the existing submarine fleet to continue building and launching more. __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

02-01-07, 11:02 AM	#4
elanaiba Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,058 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 3	Modding a 1945 start will be much, much easier than in SH3. Like 5 mins work.

02-01-07, 12:15 PM	#6
Finback Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 138 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If this sim is as historical as I think/hope it will be, starting in 45 would probably consist of gunning sampans, charting minefields with FM Sonar, lifeguarding and--very occasionally--happening on something worthy of a torpedo. Also a lot of shallow water stuff. Many of the subs that started in 45 didn't sink anything simply because there was so little left to sink. Just my 2 cents...

02-02-07, 07:02 AM	#9
peterloo Commander Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 462 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I think that the above replies have already answered the question... But to make it historical accurate, a 1945 start is necessary... modders will do their job... No worry But year 1945 won't be great fun... no more mechants travel from Phillipines to Japan... But there are reinforcements from Japan to Iwo Jima, Okiawa. There is also Operation Ten-Go, the journey of Yamato to the eternity. Probably there will be pilot rescuring mission (bombers => firebomb Japan) Tons of sucidal boats / kamikaze planes to deal with Spying Japanese bases missions Mining Japanese waters (if there is mining function included) __________________ Romeo is here, but where is Juliet? The 中国水兵 (Chinese Sailor) in subsim