Another Sub That Won't Stop Diving

Sailor Steve · 07-22-10, 09:39 AM

I've searched everywhere, and though I've found threads with similar titles it was always a crash-dive issue. Not for me.

It's probably some mod conflict or other, but I can't figure it out. Last night on my new patrol I decided to run a test dive. I went to periscope depth, and then decided to take her down to 70 meters. But it didn't stop there. Kept on diving. At 150 meters I ordered periscope depth, but she kept on diving. At 170 meters I ordered surface. At 200 meters I ordered an emergency blow. She slowly started to come up, and I mean very slowly. At about 150 meters she stopped rising. The bow is up in a full surface angle, but even repeated blows won't make the boat climb another inch.

I know better than to save while submerged, but the only alternative in this case is to lose the boat anyway, so I'm lost either way.

Any ideas?

Alpha Von Burg · 07-22-10, 10:55 AM

Well I could say one thing for sure that you wouldn't be the first or last to have post a thread like this...

One possible reason for this is that your crew was low in fatigue and therefore would not be able to respond in time. Another is the speed at which your boat was going at, though seeing as you didn't assume a crash-dive order this should not be the case. Another would be the depth, this has happened some times to me and to many others, in where they would reach a certain depth and would not be able to even blow-balist.

Or Davy Jones decides to send the Kraken to pull you to the depths (or the locker).

Take in mind that these are all just suggestions and possible veriables to what might have happened. Though you could give more details prier to the incident. Such as what mods were enabled at the time, which off course, would evidently lead to a conclusion that a mod was conflicting with another mod, but this was rarely the case for this type of problem.

By the way, I might not realise what I have wrote so there could be more than just grammatical mistakes.

"Remember, memory is the key..."

Sailor Steve · 07-23-10, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Alpha Von Burg

Well I could say one thing for sure that you wouldn't be the first or last to have post a thread like this...

Oh, I know, I know. I searched high and low for an answer, and couldn't find one when I needed it.

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One possible reason for this is that your crew was low in fatigue and therefore would not be able to respond in time.

Brand-new career. I had just reached my patrol grid and decided on a test dive. The rest is in my first post.

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Another is the speed at which your boat was going at, though seeing as you didn't assume a crash-dive order this should not be the case.

Was at 1/3 speed, whatever that is in German. It's never happened that way before. Went to flank in the surface attempt.

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Another would be the depth, this has happened some times to me and to many others, in where they would reach a certain depth and would not be able to even blow-balist.

I started trying to recover as soon as I realized I wasn't stopping at 70 meters.

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Or Davy Jones decides to send the Kraken to pull you to the depths (or the locker).

That one works for me.

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Take in mind that these are all just suggestions and possible veriables to what might have happened. Though you could give more details prier to the incident. Such as what mods were enabled at the time, which off course, would evidently lead to a conclusion that a mod was conflicting with another mod, but this was rarely the case for this type of problem.

I don't see what conflict could cause that either, but I can't think what else it could be.

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Originally Posted by Kremmen

Sabotage ?

Possible, but I don't think so. I don't have Sabotage on yet, as I'm still based out of Wilhelmshaven (in fact it's still August '39), but I always have Malfunctions turned on. However, when I run a test single mission it's doing it there too.

Sequel: When I reloaded the game I was still at 112 meters, and still angled upward. I tried blowing ballast again, and it took me to the surface just like it's supposed to. So I ordered Periscope Depth and it went down like a rock. At about 200 meters I pulled the plug (shut the computer off manually) so I wouldn't lose the career. Reloaded the game and blew ballast to surface again, and this time saved on the surface.

I'll be running some more tests, pulling mods out to see what happens, and I'll keep you all posted. I may lose the career, but that seems to be happening a lot lately, and always on the very first patrol.

ryanglavin · 07-23-10, 01:35 AM

Sorry to hear this Steve.

You want Jim to make you a custom Headstone like he did me? He gives killer deals around the time Courageous went down and extreme end of 1942. I got mine for a rock bottom price! (pun intended)

Sailor Steve · 07-23-10, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ryanglavin

Sorry to hear this Steve.

You want Jim to make you a custom Headstone like he did me? He gives killer deals around the time Courageous went down and extreme end of 1942. I got mine for a rock bottom price! (pun intended)

I belong to that Headstone Of the Month club, so I get my own.

Kremmen · 07-23-10, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I belong to that Headstone Of the Month club, so I get my own.

Love that headstone

Hope you track down the cause of the diving problem soon.

Seminole · 07-23-10, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ryanglavin

Sorry to hear this Steve.

You want Jim to make you a custom Headstone like he did me? He gives killer deals around the time Courageous went down and extreme end of 1942. I got mine for a rock bottom price! (pun intended)

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Sgt_Raa · 07-22-10, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

It's probably some mod conflict or other

i changed my max dive value and dived to 300ft (no hull damage trainer) and it seemed to get stuck there.... wouldnt go up down or move..... id go with a mod conflict as well

i turned the trainer off and still no change... i was only playing thus using said trainer..... i only use em to play around.... like seeing how far inland i can get my sub by running aground lol.

krashkart · 07-22-10, 03:10 PM

I know I'll be jinxing myself by saying this, but I've only had it happen once. No crash dive, just a simple test dive to see how far I could go before it got too scary. Somewhere below 200 meters I couldn't pull out of the dive at all, even after blowing ballast and issuing flank speed. Nose was up angle like Sailor Steve's and still the boat kept sinking.

'Tis a mystery to me. I've tried to re-create the dive time and again but have been able to surface even after sustaining hull damage below the 210 mark.

HW3 · 07-22-10, 06:02 PM

I seem to recall that years ago there was a problem with dives while using the SH3 Weather mod. I can't remember exactly what it was though.

Kremmen · 07-22-10, 06:29 PM

Sabotage ?

Seminole · 07-22-10, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kremmen

Sabotage ?

Good point...do you have sabotage ticked in SH3Commander?

I would never have thought of that since I never used the option..I already have troubles enough...

07-22-10, 09:39 AM	#1
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Another Sub That Won't Stop Diving I've searched everywhere, and though I've found threads with similar titles it was always a crash-dive issue. Not for me. It's probably some mod conflict or other, but I can't figure it out. Last night on my new patrol I decided to run a test dive. I went to periscope depth, and then decided to take her down to 70 meters. But it didn't stop there. Kept on diving. At 150 meters I ordered periscope depth, but she kept on diving. At 170 meters I ordered surface. At 200 meters I ordered an emergency blow. She slowly started to come up, and I mean very slowly. At about 150 meters she stopped rising. The bow is up in a full surface angle, but even repeated blows won't make the boat climb another inch. I know better than to save while submerged, but the only alternative in this case is to lose the boat anyway, so I'm lost either way. Any ideas? __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-22-10, 10:55 AM	#2
Alpha Von Burg Engineer Join Date: May 2010 Location: Unknown Posts: 202 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Well I could say one thing for sure that you wouldn't be the first or last to have post a thread like this... One possible reason for this is that your crew was low in fatigue and therefore would not be able to respond in time. Another is the speed at which your boat was going at, though seeing as you didn't assume a crash-dive order this should not be the case. Another would be the depth, this has happened some times to me and to many others, in where they would reach a certain depth and would not be able to even blow-balist. Or Davy Jones decides to send the Kraken to pull you to the depths (or the locker). Take in mind that these are all just suggestions and possible veriables to what might have happened. Though you could give more details prier to the incident. Such as what mods were enabled at the time, which off course, would evidently lead to a conclusion that a mod was conflicting with another mod, but this was rarely the case for this type of problem. By the way, I might not realise what I have wrote so there could be more than just grammatical mistakes. "Remember, memory is the key..." __________________ -Kapitänleutnant Richard L. Römer Last edited by Alpha Von Burg; 07-22-10 at 11:00 AM. Reason: grammatical and spelling errors

07-23-10, 01:35 AM	#4
ryanglavin Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Evading that Hunter/Killer Group on my Tail Posts: 584 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Sorry to hear this Steve. You want Jim to make you a custom Headstone like he did me? He gives killer deals around the time Courageous went down and extreme end of 1942. I got mine for a rock bottom price! (pun intended) __________________

07-22-10, 03:10 PM	#9
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	I know I'll be jinxing myself by saying this, but I've only had it happen once. No crash dive, just a simple test dive to see how far I could go before it got too scary. Somewhere below 200 meters I couldn't pull out of the dive at all, even after blowing ballast and issuing flank speed. Nose was up angle like Sailor Steve's and still the boat kept sinking. 'Tis a mystery to me. I've tried to re-create the dive time and again but have been able to surface even after sustaining hull damage below the 210 mark. __________________ sent from my fingertips using a cheap keyboard

07-22-10, 06:02 PM	#10
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,456 Downloads: 453 Uploads: 0	I seem to recall that years ago there was a problem with dives while using the SH3 Weather mod. I can't remember exactly what it was though. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

07-22-10, 06:29 PM	#11
Kremmen Torpedoman Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 116 Downloads: 138 Uploads: 0	Sabotage ? __________________ Never be afraid to try something new. Remember amateurs built the ark.....Professionals built the Titanic.