I'm having weird problems w/DW

kmike76 · 12-17-13, 02:42 PM

Hello, My name is Mike K, and I live in Fort Wayne, IN. This is my first post here.

I'm having odd problems with Dangerous Waters, and the same thing is happening with my Sub Command.

If I have "show truth" turned OFF in the "options," I can track and sink ships and subs ok. But what happens is that once I sink one, the ship sinks, but a "new" ship sort of splits off from the sinking ship. In other words, the sinking ship "gives birth to" or "clones" a new replica ship, so then I have one ship sinking, and new replica clone ship that appears. Weird!

If I have "show truth" turned ON in the "options, then I can track other ships and subs ok. But I cannot assign a torpedo or missle to them, and can only fire in the "snapshot" mode.

Any help anyone can give me with these weird things would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mike

bertieck476 · 12-17-13, 05:20 PM

I have had the same thing happen, sunk a contact and another keeps going on same course but the dead unit is still on the map, it isn't always a clone because in sub command I sunk a russian carrier but a destroyer continued on the same course, I assumed it was just that two units were travelling close together that I had not identified and as I only sank one the other carried on.

kmike76 · 12-17-13, 05:46 PM

"I have had the same thing happen, sunk a contact and another keeps going on same course but the dead unit is still on the map."

Yes, that's much the same thing I am experiencing, but unlike you, bertjeck476, it's always the exact same type ship, with no other ship around. Poof! out of nowhere....

Since it's happening with both DW and Sub Command, my best guess is something is off with my computer, or some piece of software is interfering. But my computer works fine in every other way, so I don't know...

bertieck476 · 12-17-13, 06:03 PM

I don't know if this is a bug or not, I'll wait and see if you get some replies from people more knowledgeable on this game than I am.
Bert.

Neptunus Rex · 12-18-13, 08:39 AM

What you're seeing may be your fire control solution for that target. If the target is hit and sunk, the generated solution keeps running until you manually drop the contact. In SHOW TRUTH, generated solution (and platform type) does not show in 3D view mode.

kmike76 · 12-18-13, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neptunus Rex

What you're seeing may be your fire control solution for that target. If the target is hit and sunk, the generated solution keeps running until you manually drop the contact. In SHOW TRUTH, generated solution (and platform type) does not show in 3D view mode.

I'm not sure what you mean by "manually drop the contact." I use my mouse to click off the contact, but still a clone ship appears and stays as a new contact.

The TRUTH set to ON still works as before, even when turning the 3D off. I can't lock on with any missles or torpedoes.

I set up a very simple scenario in mission editor. I had 3 supply ships crossing at a 90 degree angle to an Akula II's course to test the suggestions you gave me, Neptunus Rex. Still, no luck.

Neptunus Rex · 12-19-13, 08:31 AM

Even though a platform has been hit, maybe even sinking, your sonar will still see the target and correlate that with your previous solution or will just generate a new contact number. You have to go into preference's and tell the system to ignore sinking targets. TRUTH on turns your fire control team off. You have to enter the target azimuth and initializing range yourself.

Aktungbby · 12-19-13, 12:12 PM

Welcome aboard formally Kmike76! Plenty of help at hand here!

Jimbuna · 12-20-13, 05:48 AM

Welcome to Subsim

Molon Labe · 12-24-13, 06:02 PM

For what it's worth, I have a slightly different explanation. My guess is that the "extra" contact is not a contact at all, but the actual dead platform. If you unclick the "show dead platforms" cheat, the dead platform will not pop up on the NAV map and the issue will be resolved. As Rex already said, the contact will persist until it is dropped. (Right click menu at Nav or at TMA station to drop.)

kmike76 · 06-09-14, 03:19 PM

Thanks for the welcome, and I figured it out. It was just a matter or dropping a contact after sinking a ship, as long as the dead platform option is engaged. A "new" contact will peel off from the "dead platform contact," and it's easy to see which is which. Hope that makes sense.

12-17-13, 02:42 PM	#1
kmike76 Sailor man Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Indiana USA Posts: 49 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 0	I'm having weird problems w/DW Hello, My name is Mike K, and I live in Fort Wayne, IN. This is my first post here. I'm having odd problems with Dangerous Waters, and the same thing is happening with my Sub Command. If I have "show truth" turned OFF in the "options," I can track and sink ships and subs ok. But what happens is that once I sink one, the ship sinks, but a "new" ship sort of splits off from the sinking ship. In other words, the sinking ship "gives birth to" or "clones" a new replica ship, so then I have one ship sinking, and new replica clone ship that appears. Weird! If I have "show truth" turned ON in the "options, then I can track other ships and subs ok. But I cannot assign a torpedo or missle to them, and can only fire in the "snapshot" mode. Any help anyone can give me with these weird things would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mike

12-17-13, 05:46 PM	#3
kmike76 Sailor man Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Indiana USA Posts: 49 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 0	"I have had the same thing happen, sunk a contact and another keeps going on same course but the dead unit is still on the map." Yes, that's much the same thing I am experiencing, but unlike you, bertjeck476, it's always the exact same type ship, with no other ship around. Poof! out of nowhere.... Since it's happening with both DW and Sub Command, my best guess is something is off with my computer, or some piece of software is interfering. But my computer works fine in every other way, so I don't know... Last edited by kmike76; 12-17-13 at 06:21 PM.

12-18-13, 08:39 AM	#5
Neptunus Rex Frogman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ohio, USA Posts: 294 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What you're seeing may be your fire control solution for that target. If the target is hit and sunk, the generated solution keeps running until you manually drop the contact. In SHOW TRUTH, generated solution (and platform type) does not show in 3D view mode. __________________ Neptunus Rex sends "In the spirit of reaching across the aisle, we owe it to the Democrats to show their president the exact same kind of respect and loyalty that they have shown our recent Republican president." A.C. 11-5-08

12-19-13, 08:31 AM	#7
Neptunus Rex Frogman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ohio, USA Posts: 294 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Even though a platform has been hit, maybe even sinking, your sonar will still see the target and correlate that with your previous solution or will just generate a new contact number. You have to go into preference's and tell the system to ignore sinking targets. TRUTH on turns your fire control team off. You have to enter the target azimuth and initializing range yourself. __________________ Neptunus Rex sends "In the spirit of reaching across the aisle, we owe it to the Democrats to show their president the exact same kind of respect and loyalty that they have shown our recent Republican president." A.C. 11-5-08

12-19-13, 12:12 PM	#8
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,021 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard formally Kmike76! Plenty of help at hand here! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

12-17-13, 05:20 PM	#2
bertieck476 Chief Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 327 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	I have had the same thing happen, sunk a contact and another keeps going on same course but the dead unit is still on the map, it isn't always a clone because in sub command I sunk a russian carrier but a destroyer continued on the same course, I assumed it was just that two units were travelling close together that I had not identified and as I only sank one the other carried on.

12-17-13, 06:03 PM	#4
bertieck476 Chief Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 327 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	I don't know if this is a bug or not, I'll wait and see if you get some replies from people more knowledgeable on this game than I am. Bert.

12-20-13, 05:48 AM	#9
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,584 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Welcome to Subsim __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-24-13, 06:02 PM	#10
Molon Labe Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Along the Watchtower Posts: 3,810 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 5	For what it's worth, I have a slightly different explanation. My guess is that the "extra" contact is not a contact at all, but the actual dead platform. If you unclick the "show dead platforms" cheat, the dead platform will not pop up on the NAV map and the issue will be resolved. As Rex already said, the contact will persist until it is dropped. (Right click menu at Nav or at TMA station to drop.) __________________

06-09-14, 03:19 PM	#11
kmike76 Sailor man Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Indiana USA Posts: 49 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the welcome, and I figured it out. It was just a matter or dropping a contact after sinking a ship, as long as the dead platform option is engaged. A "new" contact will peel off from the "dead platform contact," and it's easy to see which is which. Hope that makes sense.

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