Chavez has died

CCIP · 03-05-13, 05:32 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-21679053

A divisive, problematic and controversial figure. There's gonna be two very different versions of him being trumpeted for a while now - one as some sort of angelic martyr of the people (no doubt, secretly assassinated by the US, as some will loudly proclaim) and another as this evil socialist dictator who has oppressed his own people and spat on human rights. I doubt a fair assessment of his actual role will be available for a while thanks to that.

Either way, having been a center of Latin American left-wing politics for the last few years, it will be interesting to see what effect Chavez' death will have on the region. He did build up a bit of a cult of personality around himself, and now that the person is gone, the structure behind the persona will probably struggle to redefine itself.

Seems like this has been coming for a while. Hate Chavez or not, you gotta hate cancer at the least. People in his situation rarely recover as miraculously as his PR aides were keen to claim, and I am really not surprised at today's news.

vienna · 03-05-13, 06:25 PM

Good riddance...

<O>

03-05-13, 07:04 PM

Be interesting to see if the media barons take over the country again.

geetrue · 03-05-13, 07:27 PM

I remember a couple of years ago when Pat Robertson of CBN shocked everyone by saying,
"Maybe someone ought to take him out"

"each person is appointed a time to die and then the judgement"

I have nothing to do with that level of justice ...

GoldenRivet · 03-05-13, 08:35 PM

In other news

I ate a burrito for lunch

nikimcbee · 03-05-13, 08:50 PM

Auf Wiedersehen, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Oberon · 03-05-13, 08:56 PM

CIA conspiracy wagon in five...four...three...

Ah well, I doubt there'll be many in the western world who will mourn his passing, the socialist social club will probably go into mourning but no-one really cares about them.

Now, I guess that just leaves Dinnerjacket and Little Kim as the outspoken anti-westerners of the world, even Mugabe hasn't said much about anything lately...probably trying to keep quiet in case someone farts near his economy and pushes it off the cliff edge it's perched on.

Now the more interesting question is...what's going to happen to Venezuela? One would have thought that someone would have put in place a handover regime, sensing this might be coming, but at the same time, if someone did that and Chavez recovered, then they'd probably be shot for planning to overthrow him. Time will tell, however it's pretty likely that whatever happens, the average people of Venezuela will still get screwed over.

Catfish · 03-06-13, 03:55 AM

Be careful, if you run out of villains there will be no justification left for wars

Gendall · 03-06-13, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

Be careful, if you run out of villains there will be no justification left for wars

And what about Super-Heros ? They can't make a living helping old woman crossing the road, do they ?

But if it can help, I agree to be the next vilain-axe-of-evil-terrorist... If I get 72 virgins when I die.

03-06-13, 04:17 AM

Quote:

Now the more interesting question is...what's going to happen to Venezuela? One would have thought that someone would have put in place a handover regime, sensing this might be coming, but at the same time, if someone did that and Chavez recovered, then they'd probably be shot for planning to overthrow him. Time will tell, however it's pretty likely that whatever happens, the average people of Venezuela will still get screwed over.

New elections in a month. I think Capriles stands a good chance of getting elected this time, if he runs again.

Jimbuna · 03-06-13, 07:14 AM

I can't say I'll miss hime but there will be those in his country who will.

The Enigma · 03-06-13, 07:22 AM

May he rest in peace.

03-06-13, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Privatization is a neoliberal and imperialist plan. Health can’t be privatized because it is a fundamental human right, nor can education, water, electricity and other public services. They can’t be surrendered to private capital that denies the people from their rights.

RIP Hugo.

HunterICX · 03-06-13, 10:44 AM

RIP Hugo

HunterICX

MH · 03-06-13, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Privatization is a neoliberal and imperialist plan. Health can’t be privatized because it is a fundamental human right, nor can education, water, electricity and other public services. They can’t be surrendered to private capital that denies the people from their rights.

Very nice slogan.
Similar ones exist in north korea and other places like that including former Libya(remember the green book

) , question is if Hugo lived to this or this is just anothor of those fantasies.
As far as i know which is not a lot he did not.

03-05-13, 05:32 PM	#1
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Chavez has died http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-21679053 A divisive, problematic and controversial figure. There's gonna be two very different versions of him being trumpeted for a while now - one as some sort of angelic martyr of the people (no doubt, secretly assassinated by the US, as some will loudly proclaim) and another as this evil socialist dictator who has oppressed his own people and spat on human rights. I doubt a fair assessment of his actual role will be available for a while thanks to that. Either way, having been a center of Latin American left-wing politics for the last few years, it will be interesting to see what effect Chavez' death will have on the region. He did build up a bit of a cult of personality around himself, and now that the person is gone, the structure behind the persona will probably struggle to redefine itself. Seems like this has been coming for a while. Hate Chavez or not, you gotta hate cancer at the least. People in his situation rarely recover as miraculously as his PR aides were keen to claim, and I am really not surprised at today's news. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-05-13, 06:25 PM	#2
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,711 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Good riddance... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

03-05-13, 07:27 PM	#4
geetrue Cold War Boomer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Walla Walla Posts: 2,837 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I remember a couple of years ago when Pat Robertson of CBN shocked everyone by saying, "Maybe someone ought to take him out" "each person is appointed a time to die and then the judgement" I have nothing to do with that level of justice ... __________________

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GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	In other news I ate a burrito for lunch __________________

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nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Auf Wiedersehen, don't let the door hit you on the way out. __________________

03-05-13, 07:04 PM	#3
Tribesman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Be interesting to see if the media barons take over the country again.

03-05-13, 08:56 PM	#7
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	CIA conspiracy wagon in five...four...three... Ah well, I doubt there'll be many in the western world who will mourn his passing, the socialist social club will probably go into mourning but no-one really cares about them. Now, I guess that just leaves Dinnerjacket and Little Kim as the outspoken anti-westerners of the world, even Mugabe hasn't said much about anything lately...probably trying to keep quiet in case someone farts near his economy and pushes it off the cliff edge it's perched on. Now the more interesting question is...what's going to happen to Venezuela? One would have thought that someone would have put in place a handover regime, sensing this might be coming, but at the same time, if someone did that and Chavez recovered, then they'd probably be shot for planning to overthrow him. Time will tell, however it's pretty likely that whatever happens, the average people of Venezuela will still get screwed over.

03-06-13, 03:55 AM	#8
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,766 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Be careful, if you run out of villains there will be no justification left for wars

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I can't say I'll miss hime but there will be those in his country who will. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-06-13, 07:22 AM	#12
The Enigma Seer of visions Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Under the surface Posts: 2,315 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	May he rest in peace. __________________

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HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	RIP Hugo HunterICX __________________

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