Schools out in Chicago

[yubba]

Schooooollllssss out for summer ???? schooolllsss out for ever,,, schoolllss out in chicago,,, teaaaa cccchhers on strike,...
What about the children ???? heartless union teachers what about, they do their fare share.

[1480]

It's Karen Lewis. Its not the teachers. They rejected a raise of 16% over 4 years. We rolled the dice with the arbitrator and got an average of 2%.

[nikimcbee]

I think they should make them pay the same percentage of their health benefits as the private sector average. That would probably save a lot of money right there.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by 1480

It's Karen Lewis. Its not the teachers. They rejected a raise of 16% over 4 years. We rolled the dice with the arbitrator and got an average of 2%.

Lewis is a real piece of work from the looks of it. I understand that the teachers are paid $75,000.00/year. That looks great on paper but what is the standard of living in the Chicago area? $75,000 in NY City gets you a parking spot for the year at your condo. Benefits are probably very good I would imagine.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I understand that the teachers are paid $75,000.00/year. That looks great on paper but what is the standard of living in the Chicago area? $75,000 in NY City gets you a parking spot for the year at your condo. Benefits are probably very good I would imagine.

Yeah, that is what's called, "Cost of Living". Something Yubba probably doesn't know about being from what I imagine is bumblehick "Floriduh."

It is a good question as to what the cost of living is in Chicago. Actually, cost of living is EVERYTHING. My wife for instance would get paid a lot more if she were to work in California, as opposed to what her employer offers working in Utah. However, the cost of living in California is so high, monetarily she'd be breaking even, and most likely would have a lower standard of living then she has in Utah. As for myself, my pay in California is peanuts. It's just enough to get by. Here in Utah, it's not bad pay at all, because the cost of living here is lower, so my standard of living is higher. The evidence is in the numbers. Our house here in Utah, at time of mortgage closing was just under 180. In california I'm guessing the same house would be valued at 300 or more.

So unlilke our the close minded crackpot that lives his life through a set of horse blinders that started this thread, id keep an open mind and ask, "well, just how expensive is it there in chicago?" before casting judgement on the people involved.

[AVGWarhawk]

I trust Emanuel about as far as I can throw him. I don't think for a second he is concerned with the teachers well being financially or otherwise. As for the OP, some unions in the past have been known to strong arm for more than what is commensurate with the work involved. I have seen unions close factory over demands resulting in no jobs for anyone. It is a mixed bag in some cases.

Somehow I see this as a ploy for BO to save the day and make this a campaign talking point. Another Beer Gate as it were.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I trust Emanuel about as far as I can throw him. I don't think for a second he is concerned with the teachers well being financially or otherwise.

I honestly don't know who Emanuel is, nor do I really care about that talking head, or the teacher strike in Chicago. Why would i care? It's not in my area, and it isn't my problem. People only care about this stuff if they have something to prove. Smacking Yubba's constant moronic idiocy with common sense and clear thinking is the only reason why I responded to this thread at all.

As for the OP, some unions in the past have been known to strong arm for more than what is commensurate with the work involved. I have seen unions close factory over demands resulting in no jobs for anyone. It is a mixed bag in some cases.

Yeah, unions are a mixed bag. They do some good, they do some bad. These days i think the probably do more harm then good, though historically, if it wasn't for unions, many of the things we have like a 30 min lunch and two 15 min breaks for an 8 hour shift wouldn't exist at all. So i'll give them that much, but nowadays, I wouldn't openly support unions unless employers were trying to bring us back to sweatshop conditions.

Somehow I see this as a ploy for BO to save the day and make this a campaign talking point. Another Beer Gate as it were.

Go go gadget conspiracy theory. I wonder if whatever intellectual disease yubba has is contagious.

[August]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

So unlilke our the close minded crackpot that lives his life through a set of horse blinders that started this thread, id keep an open mind and ask, "well, just how expensive is it there in chicago?" before casting judgement on the people involved.

Good question.

According to figures from the U.S. Census, the average resident makes about $47,000 a year, while the average teacher gets paid $76,000 a year. (Union sources place the figure at around $71,000, which is still the second highest in the country.)

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/11/opinio...Top+Stories%29

[1480]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Lewis is a real piece of work from the looks of it. I understand that the teachers are paid $75,000.00/year. That looks great on paper but what is the standard of living in the Chicago area? $75,000 in NY City gets you a parking spot for the year at your condo. Benefits are probably very good I would imagine.

I started with the Chicago police department in 92 at 30,300. Because of my years of service and sergeant rank, my base pay now is 89,000. With buy backs and being able to sell back up to 200 hours of comp time, I take home a little bit over 100k. Average family take home in Chicago is 44,000-47,000 a year. COLI is lower then both NY and LA. But we do have the 2nd highest sales tax and gas prices as of today from a gas station no where near the loop or the expressway was, 4.45 regular unleaded.