What is the world coming to... (Attack on US Embassy)

[1480]

I am filled with both sorrow and outrage. An Ambassador of the US, two Marines and one staff member were murdered yesterday. The hired security from Libya apparently led the those people to another building, which they assured them was "safe." Then turn around and lead the followers of the religion of peace, to the building where they storm in and murder all four.

Why did we not have Marines there, which are normally assigned to security for our embassies?

The best the empty chair can do is offer condolences and promise justice....

1979 deja vu all over again.

God watch over our people in that hell known as North Africa.

[Ducimus]

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/12/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1

[nikimcbee]

My night shift partner just got back from Egypt (He's Egyptian). He said that place is an absolute circus. I want to talk to him more about it, but he can get pretty passionate about this stuff.

OOPs, didn't know about Libya, I thought you were talking about Egypt.

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.UE-AdkbCz8A

[Oberon]

It's hardly surprising, I think everyone knew this sort of thing would happen after the Arab Springs. The young ideologues that began the uprising are finding themselves sidelined by fanaticism and there is no force that can keep order in Libya any more. It is, in a way, a bit like Iraq and Afghanistan after the Saddam and Taliban governments had been toppled. There's a massive vacuum which is struggling to be filled and in the meantime it's open season for every nutjob that has a grudge against someone or something.

[Takeda Shingen]

This should not have come as a surprise to anyone. Our foreign policy in the Middle East has only served to enpower our enemies through 'spreading democracy' and 'nation building'. After all, we just helped do these things in both Libya and Egypt. And what do they do? They turn and immediately attack us. Shocking.

[AVGWarhawk]

I believe the US also spread billions in Egypt alone.

One-third of ALL
US AID goes to
Israel and Egypt.

These 2 countries
receive one-third of
the total aid,
the majority of which
pays for armaments.
Yet, neither is a "developing" country

http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/poli...oreign-aid.htm

[Sailor Steve]

What is the world coming to? Nothing it hasn't been for thousands of years. Murdering ambassadors is a time-honored tradition. Not that I approve or agree with it. I hold with the school that says ambassadors are sacrosanct. Still, it's not a surprise at all.

[Kaye T. Bai]

Rest in peace to the Ambassador, the FSO, and those two Marine MSGs. It's a disgusting shame what happened.

[AVGWarhawk]

This action constitutes a act of war. The Embassy is seen and held as American soil.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

This action constitutes a act of war. The Embassy is seen and held as American soil.

And therein lies the problem. War against whom? And after the war, what then? We can win wars. We can't win peace.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

And therein lies the problem. War against whom? And after the war, what then? We can win wars. We can't win peace.

I was pointing out the 'act' itself. Nothing will become of it.

[Bubblehead1980]

More ignorance from the buttcrack of the world.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I was pointing out the 'act' itself. Nothing will become of it.

I disagree about that. I think something will become of it. Political forces within the country are already beating the drums of war. Externally, Netanyahu is attempting to utilize the tragedy to pull the US into open war with Iran. I don't like being the pessimist, but this is going to be bad.

The Embassy is seen and held as American soil.

No it doesn't, and anyway the embassy is in the capital not in Benghazi.

I believe the US also spread billions in Egypt alone.

Those figures are from the time of the dictator that recently got thrown out of office, I don't think those figures will buy you much goodwill credit with the people who wanted him out of office, in fact I think the military aid to the military dictatorship would be rather harmful to your local image.

Rest in peace to the Ambassador, the FSO, and those two Marine MSGs. It's a disgusting shame what happened.

What is the world coming to? Nothing it hasn't been for thousands of years. Murdering ambassadors is a time-honored tradition. Not that I approve or agree with it. I hold with the school that says ambassadors are sacrosanct. Still, it's not a surprise at all.

[AVGWarhawk]

@Tribesman

You are correct on the misconception that the Embassy is US soil.

However,

Under the concept of sovereign territory, actions taken against an ambassador or other diplomat or actions taken against the embassy itself either directly or indirectly, can be viewed as actions taken against the country that the ambassador, diplomat or embassy represent.