Japanese in the Atlantic?

KRiPtiCz · 09-17-11, 08:25 AM

so ive been playing SH3 for awhile now and i just recently got GWX and i was patrolling off the coast of Spain and i came across a Japanese medium cargo carrier. With me being in 1940 and Japan still being neutral to the US and other European nations why is it sailing in black out? and are there penalties for sinking it due to the fact they are German allies. I'm assuming there is but it still seems weird.

JazzJR · 09-17-11, 08:27 AM

I think you don't get renown for sinking a Neutral ship.

bigboywooly · 09-17-11, 08:35 AM

No you dont get renown for sinking a nuetral
Not all nuetrals are lit
Sometimes you will have to identify by flag or take a chance and sink

KRiPtiCz · 09-17-11, 09:16 AM

id attempt it but i just hit a large convoy so i wouldn't be able to determine the loss or gain from it but with it being neutral or an ally i'm sure id take a hit

Sailor Steve · 09-17-11, 11:36 AM

In the stock game no ship is lit. Lit ships are a mod. And sinking a neutral will not only not gain you renown, it will cost you the same amount. An enemy ship is worth 150? Sink a neutral and you'll lose 150.

KRiPtiCz · 09-17-11, 03:42 PM

thanks for making it more clear Steve and bigboywooly

KRiPtiCz · 09-17-11, 05:38 PM

ok i thought it was kinda cool seeing a Japanese ship in Atlantic but now im just getting flat out annoyed. this is the 3rd Japanese ship ive run into, why is a Japanese ship heading from The US to Great Britain? let alone doing it 3 times with 3 different ships.

MILLANDSON · 09-17-11, 06:14 PM

This is why I modded the renown gains to give you 0.5 the normal renown for sinking a neutral, because I only sink ships (unless they are lit and have an enemy flag) if they are dark, because if they are not lit, it suggests they are carrying war cargo. If they're a neutral, they should have their lights on, otherwise they're a legit target.

09-17-11, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KRiPtiCz

ok i thought it was kinda cool seeing a Japanese ship in Atlantic but now im just getting flat out annoyed. this is the 3rd Japanese ship ive run into, why is a Japanese ship heading from The US to Great Britain? let alone doing it 3 times with 3 different ships.

Nothing really wrong with what you're seeing. Japan had a large merchant marine and competed with Western shipping lines for international cargo business. You are unlikely to see many Japanese passenger ships in the Atlantic but expect that the maru's will be trying to capitalize on the lack of competition from German companies like NDL and HAPAG.

Some neutral shipping lines ordered darkened ships in wartime.

Brag · 09-17-11, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KRiPtiCz

ok i thought it was kinda cool seeing a Japanese ship in Atlantic but now im just getting flat out annoyed. this is the 3rd Japanese ship ive run into, why is a Japanese ship heading from The US to Great Britain? let alone doing it 3 times with 3 different ships.

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09-17-11, 08:25 AM	#1
KRiPtiCz Watch Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Minnesota Posts: 18 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Japanese in the Atlantic? so ive been playing SH3 for awhile now and i just recently got GWX and i was patrolling off the coast of Spain and i came across a Japanese medium cargo carrier. With me being in 1940 and Japan still being neutral to the US and other European nations why is it sailing in black out? and are there penalties for sinking it due to the fact they are German allies. I'm assuming there is but it still seems weird.

09-17-11, 08:27 AM	#2
JazzJR Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Germany - Berlin Posts: 263 Downloads: 98 Uploads: 0	I think you don't get renown for sinking a Neutral ship. __________________

09-17-11, 08:35 AM	#3
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	No you dont get renown for sinking a nuetral Not all nuetrals are lit Sometimes you will have to identify by flag or take a chance and sink __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

09-17-11, 11:36 AM	#5
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	In the stock game no ship is lit. Lit ships are a mod. And sinking a neutral will not only not gain you renown, it will cost you the same amount. An enemy ship is worth 150? Sink a neutral and you'll lose 150. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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09-17-11, 09:16 AM	#4
KRiPtiCz Watch Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Minnesota Posts: 18 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	id attempt it but i just hit a large convoy so i wouldn't be able to determine the loss or gain from it but with it being neutral or an ally i'm sure id take a hit

09-17-11, 03:42 PM	#6
KRiPtiCz Watch Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Minnesota Posts: 18 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	thanks for making it more clear Steve and bigboywooly

09-17-11, 05:38 PM	#7
KRiPtiCz Watch Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Minnesota Posts: 18 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	ok i thought it was kinda cool seeing a Japanese ship in Atlantic but now im just getting flat out annoyed. this is the 3rd Japanese ship ive run into, why is a Japanese ship heading from The US to Great Britain? let alone doing it 3 times with 3 different ships.

09-17-11, 06:14 PM	#8
MILLANDSON Helmsman Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 107 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	This is why I modded the renown gains to give you 0.5 the normal renown for sinking a neutral, because I only sink ships (unless they are lit and have an enemy flag) if they are dark, because if they are not lit, it suggests they are carrying war cargo. If they're a neutral, they should have their lights on, otherwise they're a legit target.