3 Dutch Marines Captured by Libyans

TLAM Strike · 03-03-11, 01:10 PM

http://www.arabtimesonline.com/NewsD...a/Default.aspx

This keeps getting better.

AVGWarhawk · 03-03-11, 01:14 PM

Things like this never end well.

Matador.es · 03-04-11, 02:52 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110303...20110303162815

Really wonder what happened! And why there was no defense like a few marines onboard?

Really bad position for negotiations!

Edit: i really feel sorry for the crew!

Matador.es · 03-04-11, 03:27 AM

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The marines were surrounded by armed men and captured on Sunday after landing near Sirte in a Lynx helicopter that was on board a navy ship, HMS Tromp, which is anchored off the Libyan coast to help evacuations, Dutch defence ministry spokesman Otte Beeksma said.

Dutch officials were in "intensive negotiations" with the Libyan government to secure the marines' release, he said.

"We have also been in contact with the crewmen involved. They are doing well under the circumstances and we hope they will be released as quickly as possible."

Asked if the Dutch government considered the marines hostages, Beeksma said: "They are being held by Libyan authorities."

Two people the marines were trying to rescue were also captured but have been released and left the country. The identities of the marines were not released.

If the package was already on board, a crash could be an option. I just can’t imagine you land the thing into enemy troops, though possibly hard to distinguish sides but still...

Edit: Libya State TV:

joegrundman · 03-04-11, 04:30 AM

now, who'd win in a straight up fight, no allies, between the Netherlands and Libya?

Oh for the good old days before overwhelming force

03-04-11, 05:10 AM

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Oh for the good old days before overwhelming force

Oh for the same old complications of civil wars.

joegrundman · 03-04-11, 05:22 AM

purely as a spectator, of course

papa_smurf · 03-04-11, 06:06 AM

Imagine if this had been US marines captured and not Dutch marines...

Herr-Berbunch · 03-04-11, 06:36 AM

If it was British Marines then the Imprest officer would be going skitz over that money gone and no receipt. Oh, and the female wouldn't have been half as attractive

03-04-11, 07:26 AM

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Imagine if this had been US marines captured and not Dutch marines...

Yeah, they might have to get Ollie North away from Foxnews to do a deal.

TLAM Strike · 03-04-11, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Matador.es

And why there was no defense like a few marines onboard?

A Lynx is a really small chopper. There is only room for a few passengers.

krashkart · 03-04-11, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

A Lynx is a really small chopper. There is only room for a few passengers.

(If they were still active...) Send a pair of HAL-3 birds along to fly cover.

Matador.es · 03-04-11, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

A Lynx is a really small chopper. There is only room for a few passengers.

There is enough room for about 5/6 ppl.

In the Video below you will see the same chopper, from the same Ship, HMS Tromp in an successful attack against pirates on a German Merchant vessel Taipan:

HMS Tromp is without chopper atm., it only had 1 on board

Edit for Krashkart. 3 years ago the NH-90 was ordered. Due to production delays they are still not in use, nor delivered.

TLAM Strike · 03-04-11, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Matador.es

There is enough room for about 5/6 ppl.

In the Video below you will see the same chopper, from the same Ship, HMS Tromp in an successful attack against pirates on a German Merchant vessel Taipan:

HMS Tromp is without chopper atm., it only had 1 on board

Edit for Krashkart. 3 years ago the NH-90 was ordered. Due to production delays they are still not in use, nor delivered.

Maybe fuel was a factor they couldn't carry extra crew or they thought there were more people to evac than there was.

EDIT: This does how that NATO needs some kind of CSAR unit in place.

Matador.es · 03-04-11, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Maybe fuel was a factor they couldn't carry extra crew or they thought there were more people to evac than there was.

EDIT: This does how that NATO needs some kind of CSAR unit in place.

By heart; THE liynx does 560 à 580 km. I assume THE Tromp was about 30 km, at least 12,5 NM. THE city is in à coastal area.

I think it was à mechanical mallfuntion in combination with damage. Best gues that it has flown after pick up.

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