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TLAM Strike 03-03-11 01:10 PM

3 Dutch Marines Captured by Libyans
 
http://www.arabtimesonline.com/NewsD...a/Default.aspx

This keeps getting better. :roll:

AVGWarhawk 03-03-11 01:14 PM

Things like this never end well.

Matador.es 03-04-11 02:52 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110303...20110303162815

Really wonder what happened! And why there was no defense like a few marines onboard?

Really bad position for negotiations!

Edit: i really feel sorry for the crew!

Matador.es 03-04-11 03:27 AM

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The marines were surrounded by armed men and captured on Sunday after landing near Sirte in a Lynx helicopter that was on board a navy ship, HMS Tromp, which is anchored off the Libyan coast to help evacuations, Dutch defence ministry spokesman Otte Beeksma said.

Dutch officials were in "intensive negotiations" with the Libyan government to secure the marines' release, he said.

"We have also been in contact with the crewmen involved. They are doing well under the circumstances and we hope they will be released as quickly as possible."

Asked if the Dutch government considered the marines hostages, Beeksma said: "They are being held by Libyan authorities."

Two people the marines were trying to rescue were also captured but have been released and left the country. The identities of the marines were not released.


If the package was already on board, a crash could be an option. I just can’t imagine you land the thing into enemy troops, though possibly hard to distinguish sides but still...

Edit: Libya State TV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLjfH9mx9Z4

joegrundman 03-04-11 04:30 AM

now, who'd win in a straight up fight, no allies, between the Netherlands and Libya?

Oh for the good old days before overwhelming force

Tribesman 03-04-11 05:10 AM

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Oh for the good old days before overwhelming force
Oh for the same old complications of civil wars.

joegrundman 03-04-11 05:22 AM

purely as a spectator, of course

papa_smurf 03-04-11 06:06 AM

Imagine if this had been US marines captured and not Dutch marines...

Herr-Berbunch 03-04-11 06:36 AM

If it was British Marines then the Imprest officer would be going skitz over that money gone and no receipt. Oh, and the female wouldn't have been half as attractive :nope:

Tribesman 03-04-11 07:26 AM

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Imagine if this had been US marines captured and not Dutch marines...
Yeah, they might have to get Ollie North away from Foxnews to do a deal.

TLAM Strike 03-04-11 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Matador.es (Post 1611865)
And why there was no defense like a few marines onboard?

A Lynx is a really small chopper. There is only room for a few passengers.

krashkart 03-04-11 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1612089)
A Lynx is a really small chopper. There is only room for a few passengers.


(If they were still active...) Send a pair of HAL-3 birds along to fly cover. :yeah:

Matador.es 03-04-11 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1612089)
A Lynx is a really small chopper. There is only room for a few passengers.

There is enough room for about 5/6 ppl.

In the Video below you will see the same chopper, from the same Ship, HMS Tromp in an successful attack against pirates on a German Merchant vessel Taipan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcqZKBJMNhI

HMS Tromp is without chopper atm., it only had 1 on board

Edit for Krashkart. 3 years ago the NH-90 was ordered. Due to production delays they are still not in use, nor delivered.

TLAM Strike 03-04-11 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Matador.es (Post 1612109)
There is enough room for about 5/6 ppl.

In the Video below you will see the same chopper, from the same Ship, HMS Tromp in an successful attack against pirates on a German Merchant vessel Taipan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcqZKBJMNhI

HMS Tromp is without chopper atm., it only had 1 on board

Edit for Krashkart. 3 years ago the NH-90 was ordered. Due to production delays they are still not in use, nor delivered.

Maybe fuel was a factor they couldn't carry extra crew or they thought there were more people to evac than there was.

EDIT: This does how that NATO needs some kind of CSAR unit in place.

Matador.es 03-04-11 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1612145)
Maybe fuel was a factor they couldn't carry extra crew or they thought there were more people to evac than there was.

EDIT: This does how that NATO needs some kind of CSAR unit in place.

By heart; THE liynx does 560 à 580 km. I assume THE Tromp was about 30 km, at least 12,5 NM. THE city is in à coastal area.

I think it was à mechanical mallfuntion in combination with damage. Best gues that it has flown after pick up.


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