The politics thread

[Lord_magerius]

The thread for any form of politics. I don't know about anybody else but I'm sick of seeing "OMFG OBAMA IS BLACK AND WANTS TO KILL US ALL" and "Ooh muslims theres a simple subject" threads whenever I log in to subsim. Yes I know that certain things deserve their own thread but opening this one would open up the floor for minor political discussions and at least tidy up the Off Topic section.

[gimpy117]

on the subject of the obama thing:

yes, this is a VERY right leaning board. it's par for the course here. Im used to Steamwake, armalike, tater and company ganging up on me.



and a pic to start it off

[nikimcbee]

Sweet, a political thread:

a political topic near to Jim's heart!

Silly, silly. It has nothing to do with the color of ones skin as much as our president is want to make it so. It is about his policies. To make us like Europe. Which is why we all left to begin with.

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by Lord_magerius

The thread for any form of politics. I don't know about anybody else but I'm sick of seeing "OMFG OBAMA IS BLACK AND WANTS TO KILL US ALL" and "Ooh muslims theres a simple subject" threads whenever I log in to subsim. Yes I know that certain things deserve their own thread but opening this one would open up the floor for minor political discussions and at least tidy up the Off Topic section.

Well, I don't think a thread will save it. Hell, even if we opened a whole forum for it, I don't think you'd avoid these threads in here.

What you should really do if you want to help is start more interesting threads NOT about politics. Just flood it out with merrier things!

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by CCIP

Well, I don't think a thread will save it. Hell, even if we opened a whole forum for it, I don't think you'd avoid these threads in here.

I think you should start a Canadian political thread, now that would be different.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I think you should start a Canadian political thread, now that would be different.

That would be a lot of talk about maple syrup brands.

Just kidding; don't hurt me.

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I think you should start a Canadian political thread, now that would be different.

And by different you mean boring

Really, Canadian politics are a dysfunctional, passion-less, stalemate-on-hold right now. But to be honest, I prefer that to US politics

[Ducimus]

A politics thread won't work because it doesn't suit the ego's involved. The usual suspects feel their opinion every issue is the right opinion, the issue itself is so important it deserves its own thread, and most importantly, they demand to be heard. That is the thing really, they want to be heard. If the post will get buried, they won't be heard, therego, they won't abide by a designated place to vent their anger.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

That would be a lot of talk about maple syrup brands.

Just kidding; don't hurt me.

I knew I could find a real Canadian political discussion, not releated to maple syrup!



I'll just throw this in:

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

on the subject of the obama thing:

yes, this is a VERY right leaning board. it's par for the course here. Im used to Steamwake, armalike, tater and company ganging up on me.


FUnny
and a pic to start it off

Funny, albeit completely and grossly inaccurate.

Besides, what's most entertaining is how clearly this graphic illustrates the odd Democrat belief that ANY debt spending would "save" the economy. It would be far more poignant to suggest, "1 trillion in spending cuts to save it." Instead this graphic suggests that, in one year, Obama spends 20% of what Bush did in *EIGHT* and that somehow is better.

Great point, if your audience is comprised of morons that haven't bothered with an attempt at understanding economics.

By the way, true story - Obama's committed us to far more spending than this graphic represents. His spending hasn't "Saved" a freakin' thing - government spending never does.

And finally, despite your claims, this board is quite down the middle as far as politcal leanings go. Just because you're faced with stiff arguments by certain individuals the board doesn't "lean" that way. I can think of as many liberals I respect as conservatives you don't. Mookie, antikristuseke, Stealth Hunter, I could go on. There are also plenty of centrists, such as Sailor Steve, Skybird, Takeda, etc. Finally, there are plenty of conservatives I disagree with, but the philosophy of "if you can't say something nice..." prevents me from naming names.

Back on topic, that pic makes the best case for fiscally conservative Republicans I've ever seen - fine, under Bush we spent a ton. What on Earth makes anyone think that means that Democrats, who are CONSTANTLY spending, would be more conservative? All that graphic does is illustrate the mindset of "well, they did it, why can't we?".

But here's the problem - if the Dems are opposed to spending, then they would be conservatives and this would be no issues. Instead, they are FOR spending and are pandering to the newly fiscally conservative nation that further spending is okay because Republicans did it, but that spending under Republicans was wrong because Republicans did it.

As such, they are going to be destroyed in the elections tomorrow because most people know frauds when they see them. Frankly I think Dems would have done far better if they ran on being spend-happy Dems. While in reality, the average Dem is attempting to stand for the principles of your average Rep, and the public is siding with the right because the left is going up against their own votes.

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by Lord_magerius

The thread for any form of politics. I don't know about anybody else but I'm sick of seeing "OMFG OBAMA IS BLACK AND WANTS TO KILL US ALL" and "Ooh muslims theres a simple subject" threads whenever I log in to subsim. Yes I know that certain things deserve their own thread but opening this one would open up the floor for minor political discussions and at least tidy up the Off Topic section.

Then why don't you start a topic on its own merits and avoid the generalizing of the other side? Or why don't you simply not read political topics? Or, in the case that you accidentally stumble upon one, why not just hit the "Back" button and remove yourself from the situation?


Or is the problem that you have an opinion that differs from the one you're usually reading and you cannot tolerate that? If so, what makes you think that you're opinion that any other opinion shouldn't be discussed? Or better, why should said other opinion be more valid than the prevailing opinion merely because it hasn't be represented as much? Is it that you believe you're opinion of things is so superior to others that it shouldn't be faced with the test of standing upon its own without regard to the other side, as evidenced by the original post reference to the concept that alternative ideas to your own are prevailent?

I am suggesting that you would have done far better to just present your opinion and leave it at that, rather than suggesting that alternatives to your opinion are intellectual justifications in and of themselves. In the end, that only makes you seem more incapable of defending your position and begs the question as to whether or not you have any defensible argument as to why you hold said position.

...or you just think that anyone who disagrees with you isn't making sense without any analysis in support of that.

Either way, despite what topics you tire of, you're only lending credibility to their nature by way of disimissing them without justification.

[Buddahaid]

Zombie Politics!

I think they've got it figured out that by the time election day rolls around, you'll vote for anything to MAKE IT STOP!

[joea]

Originally Posted by CCIP

And by different you mean boring

Really, Canadian politics are a dysfunctional, passion-less, stalemate-on-hold right now. But to be honest, I prefer that to US politics

Swiss politics is worse, though they had some excitment with the minaret vote last year, Khaddafi and his shenanigans and a current proposal to expel foreigners convicted of crimes.

[joea]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I knew I could find a real Canadian political discussion, not releated to maple syrup!



I'll just throw this in:

Ah good old Bob and Doug, as for the second clip:

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