Should I purchase SH V?

pocatellodave · 08-31-10, 11:09 AM

I know this subject has probably been worn a little thin,but if I don't ask for help,I will probably have a bad go of it with SH V.The main reason I'm a bit on the iffy side is because Ducimus is negative towards SH V.A man of great respect such as Ducimus among we submariners is to be listened to when he gives his thoughts on a new sub sim.
I keep reading post that if one uses the modders products,SH V isn't too bad,and I plan on using the mods for sure if they will make the sim playable.If someone could give me a hand with what mods are best,I would be very thankful.
I have a very capable Alienware puter,so that isn't a issue.
I'm still playing SH IV,with Ducimis's latest mod,and I enjoy it a great deal.Thank you again Ducimus,as you make a lot of us skippers very happy with your efforts!
I would really appreciate some help on this decision.
Thanks in advance for any help.
P.S. I'm checking the mods right now to see what they do to help the SH V problems

Takeda Shingen · 08-31-10, 11:10 AM

If worse comes to worse, you can just put it on the shelf and wait for the mods to mature.

EDIT: Do a little reading here. You'll find plenty to form an opinion, and you'll find no shortage of those here.

ETR3(SS) · 08-31-10, 11:17 AM

I'm thinking this would have been a good game to have a demo of, you know like they did back in the day. Do they still do demos anymore?

longam · 08-31-10, 12:35 PM

SH4 <-Demo

Sailor Steve · 08-31-10, 03:28 PM

The only reason I can see not to buy SH5 is if, like me, you oppose the DRM on principle. Otherwise yes, there are problems, but many of those who are now playing it are enjoying it.

There are others who have it and don't like it, as you have read. If their complaints aren't things that bother you, then you should indeed buy it and play it. If those things do bother you, then don't buy it. Or read the threads of the same title as yours that get posted here on a regular basis.

But you posted that Ducimus produces good advice, which he does. So why ask at all, unless you are hoping someone else will talk you into it?

CaptainMattJ. · 08-31-10, 07:34 PM

Ditto on what takeda said.

Its entirely up to you, and theres about 2000 threads of information about the game.

My suggestion is to form your own opinion, its just about the easiest thing possible. Ive had no problems with DRM, and SH5 is a great game.....For the most part.

im not a big realistic nut like everyone else, but ive started getting into it. SH5 STOCK, i say again STOCK, is, as its been said before, an arcade shooter for anyone who has been playing the SH series/ other subsims.

Ducimus isnt a god, although he is and should be a respected member, and while he may not be fond of SH5, lots of other respected long time members like it. Take sailor steve, whos title "Ancient mariner", serves him well. Hes been around for a long time not only in the forums but also in life (respectfully, of course). He likes SH5, just not DRM. DRM detracts so little from the game, even though SOME people have serious technical problems with it.

Its your 50-60$ to spend, and therefore your opinion is what matters most. People have different views on it. While Stock SH5 is fun sometimes when you just wanna blow **** up and use like subnuclear deck guns nd stuff, but with serious mods it becomes Quite enjoyable. However the campaign is annoying, and if you have a 50 year old POS graphics card, like me (at least in comparison on how it performs in SH5), it makes my FPS around 9, which is terrible and THAT REALLY destracts from gameplay.

It TRULY isnt as bad as people say/infer it is. Its like your own little baby (although the emotions are a bit dubbed down). On one hand its beautiful and you love it and its wonderful, however there are some things that it does that are annoying and bad like soiling himself and being difficult and needy. however once time has passed and things change, it grows into an amazing little boy, whos not difficult, or annoying at some times, and he helps out alot.

Thats what SH5 is gonna be in a year maybe, when super mods and serious AWESOME mods improve it so well it becomes a favorite and you wanna play it all the time.

jctrnacty · 09-01-10, 04:51 AM

Definately buy it, i dont understand how can others say dont buy it.

One day this game will be prefect, its worth the money.

JScones · 09-01-10, 06:03 AM

And the winner of the "most number of references to Ducimus in a single post" award is... pocatellodave!!!

Seriously, here's what you do: point out SH5 to your significant other, just the cover will do. Do so on-line or in a store, doesn't matter. Mumble something about it being that game you heard about. Then forget about it.

If your significant other follows the Subsim trend, then in a week or two you'll be the proud owner of a copy of SH5. As you didn't buy it yourself, you'll no longer have the quandary about whether to buy it or not. And, as a bonus, if it sux, just blame your partner.

JU_88 · 09-01-10, 07:19 AM

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I win! now hand it over...

JScones · 09-02-10, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelViking

The question about fixing the problems in SH5 is not a question of if, but a question of when. I myself have not expected one more ounce of help from Ubi since patch 1.2 came out, but you don't see me giving up do you? Give us time, and everything can be solved.

I admire your conviction.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece

I was perusing on eBay when some how I stumbled on this bid for SH5, I looked it over and it is certainly genuine, since you have a key and can register online and the seller was reputable with 100% positive feedback. Now I had a laugh and thought I'd place a bid on it for $5, it also had postage for $7, but never once did I think I would win it at this price, bidding was to end in the early hours of the morning (around 5.30 am), next day I checked the emails to find I had won it for US $10.23, AU $11.50 delivered (by registered mail no less)!

<snip>

Well UBI didn't make much profit from me!!

but now the "I'll never buy SH5 crowd" is going to have a field day with me!

My God, what have I done!!

Given the seller's location, I'm not sure Ubisoft made *any* profit from you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

And you have moments when you are spot on, and make everybody else feel inadequate. That's why in spite of any lip I give you you have my absolute respect. Anyone who disagrees just needs to read the "A Brief Introduction to the Pacific Submarine War" thread.

Which makes you "just like any other man, only more so."

I consider it conviction. Forming your beliefs and sticking by them, without sitting on the fence and worrying that you might upset someone. The former commands respect, even when in disagreement, the latter apathy.

For example, JU and I have numerous stoushes, but I'd still buy him a beer, because even though he's always wrong (that's a joke - I'm an INTJ and that is my "prayer") he's not afraid to "put it out there". But those who "don't want to offend the devs" or "don't want to upset whoever", meh...

09-02-10, 02:50 AM

At that price you will get alot from the game and yes, I agree, I admire steelviking for what he does and plans to do.
Hopefully himslf along with TDW, privateer, reaper7 and others will make a supermod once they figure out how to import ships into SH5.
At the moment it's the most dissappointing thing about it, the lack of variation in planes and ships.

09-01-10, 10:48 AM

IMO buy the game when and IF you find it for around $20, i wouldnt recommend paying more based on my opinion of how unfinished and arcade like the game is in its stock form.

yes mods do a lot for improving the game greatly but that doesnt mean you should give UBI more money (or heaven forbid, full price

) just because modders working for free on their own have made the game better.

08-31-10, 11:09 AM	#1
pocatellodave Engineer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pocatello,ID Posts: 203 Downloads: 92 Uploads: 0	Should I purchase SH V? I know this subject has probably been worn a little thin,but if I don't ask for help,I will probably have a bad go of it with SH V.The main reason I'm a bit on the iffy side is because Ducimus is negative towards SH V.A man of great respect such as Ducimus among we submariners is to be listened to when he gives his thoughts on a new sub sim. I keep reading post that if one uses the modders products,SH V isn't too bad,and I plan on using the mods for sure if they will make the sim playable.If someone could give me a hand with what mods are best,I would be very thankful. I have a very capable Alienware puter,so that isn't a issue. I'm still playing SH IV,with Ducimis's latest mod,and I enjoy it a great deal.Thank you again Ducimus,as you make a lot of us skippers very happy with your efforts! I would really appreciate some help on this decision. Thanks in advance for any help. P.S. I'm checking the mods right now to see what they do to help the SH V problems

08-31-10, 11:17 AM	#3
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	I'm thinking this would have been a good game to have a demo of, you know like they did back in the day. Do they still do demos anymore? __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

08-31-10, 03:28 PM	#5
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	The only reason I can see not to buy SH5 is if, like me, you oppose the DRM on principle. Otherwise yes, there are problems, but many of those who are now playing it are enjoying it. There are others who have it and don't like it, as you have read. If their complaints aren't things that bother you, then you should indeed buy it and play it. If those things do bother you, then don't buy it. Or read the threads of the same title as yours that get posted here on a regular basis. But you posted that Ducimus produces good advice, which he does. So why ask at all, unless you are hoping someone else will talk you into it? __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

08-31-10, 07:34 PM	#6
CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	Ditto on what takeda said. Its entirely up to you, and theres about 2000 threads of information about the game. My suggestion is to form your own opinion, its just about the easiest thing possible. Ive had no problems with DRM, and SH5 is a great game.....For the most part. im not a big realistic nut like everyone else, but ive started getting into it. SH5 *STOCK, i say again STOCK, is, as its been said before, an arcade shooter for anyone who has been playing the SH series/ other subsims. Ducimus isnt a god, although he is and should be a respected member, and while he may not be fond of SH5, lots of other respected long time members like it. Take sailor steve, whos title "Ancient mariner", serves him well. Hes been around for a long time not only in the forums but also in life (respectfully, of course). He likes SH5, just not DRM. DRM detracts so little from the game, even though SOME* people have serious technical problems with it. Its your 50-60$ to spend, and therefore your opinion is what matters most. People have different views on it. While Stock SH5 is fun sometimes when you just wanna blow **** up and use like subnuclear deck guns nd stuff, but with serious mods it becomes Quite enjoyable. However the campaign is annoying, and if you have a 50 year old POS graphics card, like me (at least in comparison on how it performs in SH5), it makes my FPS around 9, which is terrible and THAT REALLY destracts from gameplay. It TRULY isnt as bad as people say/infer it is. Its like your own little baby (although the emotions are a bit dubbed down). On one hand its beautiful and you love it and its wonderful, however there are some things that it does that are annoying and bad like soiling himself and being difficult and needy. however once time has passed and things change, it grows into an amazing little boy, whos not difficult, or annoying at some times, and he helps out alot. Thats what SH5 is gonna be in a year maybe, when super mods and serious AWESOME mods improve it so well it becomes a favorite and you wanna play it all the time. __________________ A popular Government without popular information nor the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives - James Madison

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08-31-10, 11:10 AM	#2
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	If worse comes to worse, you can just put it on the shelf and wait for the mods to mature. EDIT: Do a little reading here. You'll find plenty to form an opinion, and you'll find no shortage of those here.

08-31-10, 12:35 PM	#4
longam Admiral Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,014 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	SH4 <-Demo

09-01-10, 04:51 AM	#7
jctrnacty Watch Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Czech republic - Prague Posts: 16 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Definately buy it, i dont understand how can others say dont buy it. One day this game will be prefect, its worth the money.

09-01-10, 06:03 AM	#8
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	And the winner of the "most number of references to Ducimus in a single post" award is... pocatellodave!!! Seriously, here's what you do: point out SH5 to your significant other, just the cover will do. Do so on-line or in a store, doesn't matter. Mumble something about it being that game you heard about. Then forget about it. If your significant other follows the Subsim trend, then in a week or two you'll be the proud owner of a copy of SH5. As you didn't buy it yourself, you'll no longer have the quandary about whether to buy it or not. And, as a bonus, if it sux, just blame your partner.

09-02-10, 02:50 AM	#11
Barso Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	At that price you will get alot from the game and yes, I agree, I admire steelviking for what he does and plans to do. Hopefully himslf along with TDW, privateer, reaper7 and others will make a supermod once they figure out how to import ships into SH5. At the moment it's the most dissappointing thing about it, the lack of variation in planes and ships.

09-01-10, 10:48 AM	#12
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	IMO buy the game when and IF you find it for around $20, i wouldnt recommend paying more based on my opinion of how unfinished and arcade like the game is in its stock form. yes mods do a lot for improving the game greatly but that doesnt mean you should give UBI more money (or heaven forbid, full price ) just because modders working for free on their own have made the game better.