US and Vietnam stage joint naval activities

Gerald · 08-10-10, 07:20 AM

story,
The US and Vietnam are conducting joint naval exercises in the South China Sea, a sign of increasing military ties between the two former enemies.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-10925061

Note: 10 August 2010 Last updated at 11:34 GMT

Ducimus · 08-10-10, 10:44 AM

This map is telling. China's getting greedy.

Sailor Steve · 08-10-10, 10:48 AM

I'm glad to see it, though this

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But correspondents say they could anger China, which has been in a dispute with Vietnam over islands in the area.

makes me wonder about the real motives. For both countries.

Gerald · 08-10-10, 11:06 AM

but an important strategic decision.for a second stabitilitet.

Jimbuna · 08-10-10, 01:35 PM

Never thought I'd see this during my lifetime

ETR3(SS) · 08-10-10, 02:17 PM

Not only this but we (the United States) are in talks to help them (Vietnam) to help set up a civilian nuclear program. I'll see if I can track down the link again.

Oberon · 08-10-10, 02:33 PM

Anything to get Beijings backs up, eh?

Bubblehead1980 · 08-10-10, 02:33 PM

Not sure how I feel about warming up to Vietnam.I suppose its a means to an end to protect freedom of navigation in the area.We really need to nip the china problem in bud before we're dealing with another WW II era Japan naval wise.

Oberon · 08-10-10, 02:38 PM

It's the nipping that's the problem. How does one nip a superpower?

Short of declaring war, which is something the general public hates (unless of course, you are declared war on first).

ETR3(SS) · 08-10-10, 02:39 PM

Found said link from previous post. Personally I see turning Vietnam into an ally against it's fellow communist neighbor as a good thing.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...r-negotiations

nikimcbee · 08-10-10, 02:41 PM

I play devil's advocate and say: I think china and Russia should conduct their next naval operation off the west coast of Washington, say 100 miles out.
time to push back.

ETR3(SS) · 08-10-10, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I play devil's advocate and say: I think china and Russia should conduct their next naval operation off the west coast of Washington, say 100 miles out.
time to push back.

Sure if Canada was claiming that water was theirs and China and Russia wanted to tell them, no it's not. Can't really play devil's advocate when the situation is changed. Also there was rumor of an Oscar II sitting outside the Juan De Fuca Strait back in the late 90's I think it was. So it's not like they haven't been this way before.

Oberon · 08-10-10, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I play devil's advocate and say: I think china and Russia should conduct their next naval operation off the west coast of Washington, say 100 miles out.
time to push back.

Well, Russia's already resumed the flyovers and airspace probes.

Jimbuna · 08-10-10, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

It's the nipping that's the problem. How does one nip a superpower?

Short of declaring war, which is something the general public hates (unless of course, you are declared war on first).

My thoughts/sentiments as well

TLAM Strike · 08-10-10, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

It's the nipping that's the problem. How does one nip a superpower?

Short of declaring war, which is something the general public hates (unless of course, you are declared war on first).

Run them in to Bankruptcy.

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I play devil's advocate and say: I think china and Russia should conduct their next naval operation off the west coast of Washington, say 100 miles out.
time to push back.

I assume you mean the State of Washington. Joint Sino-Russkie naval ops on the Potomac would be strange...

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

Sure if Canada was claiming that water was theirs and China and Russia wanted to tell them, no it's not. Can't really play devil's advocate when the situation is changed. Also there was rumor of an Oscar II sitting outside the Juan De Fuca Strait back in the late 90's I think it was. So it's not like they haven't been this way before.

Some fisherman found the towed array she lost out there.

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Well, Russia's already resumed the flyovers and airspace probes.

Billion dollar/pound 21st century jet fighters escorting a thousand dollar bomber from the 1950's. If the Russians keep doing this they will run us in to bankruptcy just from keeping our fighters in the air.

08-10-10, 07:20 AM	#1
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ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Not only this but we (the United States) are in talks to help them (Vietnam) to help set up a civilian nuclear program. I'll see if I can track down the link again. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

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ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Found said link from previous post. Personally I see turning Vietnam into an ally against it's fellow communist neighbor as a good thing. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...r-negotiations __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

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Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	This map is telling. China's getting greedy.

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Anything to get Beijings backs up, eh?

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Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,100 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	Not sure how I feel about warming up to Vietnam.I suppose its a means to an end to protect freedom of navigation in the area.We really need to nip the china problem in bud before we're dealing with another WW II era Japan naval wise.

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	It's the nipping that's the problem. How does one nip a superpower? Short of declaring war, which is something the general public hates (unless of course, you are declared war on first).

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