Sad really

TDK1044 · 03-19-10, 12:23 PM

5 years ago in March of 2005, Silent Hunter III was released.

Here we are five years later, and not only are many of the bugs and glitches the same or similar, but the end users now have to try and play the game online using unreliable Ubisoft servers.

When rumors of Silent Hunter 5 started to surface in September of 2008, my initial reaction was "please let this be a 2011 release". Once the March 2010 release date was confirmed, so were my worst fears.

I've asked my wife to look at purchasing this game for me for Christmas, but only if it's under $20 and can be played offline.

Cavell · 03-19-10, 12:27 PM

Guess she better start looking for a nice tie.

TDK1044 · 03-19-10, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavell

Guess she better start looking for a nice tie.

ReallyDedPoet · 03-19-10, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDK1044

5 years ago in March of 2005, Silent Hunter III was released.

Here we are five years later, and not only are many of the bugs and glitches the same or similar, but the end users now have to try and play the game online using unreliable Ubisoft servers.

When rumors of Silent Hunter 5 started to surface in September of 2008, my initial reaction was "please let this be a 2011 release". Once the March 2010 release date was confirmed, so were my worst fears.

I've asked my wife to look at purchasing this game for me for Christmas, but only if it's under $20 and can be played offline.

For me thus far the bugs in the game are a larger issue then the DRM. I should mention that the computer I am using has a wireless adapter, so I am not even running off the computer that is directly connected to our high speed.

Don't get me wrong, I am no fan of the DRM, but it's the unfinished game that is more of an issue which both 3 and 4 were as well, but not to this extent.

Hitman · 03-19-10, 12:31 PM

Well ...

-I'm having a huge fun sinking tonnage with my uboat,
-I'm delighted with the superb graphics, detailed models, and amazing explosions and effects, as well as the realistic water
-I'm loving being able to play a hammered out game with most bugs and glitches solved
-I'm enjoy playing my game anytime, anywhere I want

Oh, did I forgot to say it?

I'm playing just SH3 and SH4 UBM

TDK1044 · 03-19-10, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by reallydedpoet

For me thus far the bugs in the game are a larger issue then the DRM. I should mention that the computer I am using has a wireless adapter, so I am not even running off the computer that is directly connected to our high speed.

Don't get me wrong, I am no fan of the DRM, but it's the unfinished game that is more of an issue which both 3 and 4 were as well, but not to this extent.

It really is sad, Kevin. A new Toyota is a better risk than Silent Hunter 5.

Rockin Robbins · 03-19-10, 12:38 PM

Well, maybe Ubi will see the light and fix the game. Like you I'm ready and willing to buy a DRM free game that fixes many of the glitches. My price point seems to be higher than yours, but I don't see that mattering as the first two requirements block any consideration of price...

I can't get over Ubi's attitude about the whole thing. This is how it is and if you don't like it too bad, don't buy it.

I smile and say okay!

Bet they blink first.

TDK1044 · 03-19-10, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Well, maybe Ubi will see the light and fix the game. Like you I'm ready and willing to buy a DRM free game that fixes many of the glitches. My price point seems to be higher than yours, but I don't see that mattering as the first two requirements block any consideration of price...

I can't get over Ubi's attitude about the whole thing. This is how it is and if you don't like it too bad, don't buy it.

I smile and say okay!

Bet they blink first.

You're right about the price point. If the game was heavily patched and playable offline, I'd pay full price for it.

tater · 03-19-10, 12:44 PM

I'd buy a DRM-free version for whatever the price was, even though I don't see myself playing it at all. I have to say, I'm fascinated by some of the campaign and AI modding possibilities, but I simply will not buy it if there is even a remote chance that I might ever be disallowed play (in my case modding) through any fault other than my own system, regardless of the duration of the problem.

If that chance is demonstrated to be impossible, I'd reconsider.

It is certainly strange and sad that so many stock sh3 and 4 bugs have propagated into this title as well.

frau kaleun · 03-19-10, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TDK1044

You're right about the price point. If the game was heavily patched and playable offline, I'd pay full price for it.

I'd've paid full price at release if it weren't for the DRM, and I'm not even sure my current computer would run it well enough for me to enjoy it w/o upgrades, which aren't going to happen for at least a couple years.

As it is, they may get $10 for it from me somewhere down the line, by which time it will probably have been fully patched and (I hope) the DRM removed, and my system beefed up a bit. That's how I got SH3, after all, but only because I didn't know it existed until six months ago, lol. Sometimes it pays to be out of the loop on these things (but in my case it's not paying very well for Ubi this time around).

Cavell · 03-19-10, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Bet they blink first.

Nah. They've maneuvered themselves into a position where they simply can't back down thanks to all their, "This is how we're going to end piracy FOREVER" BS.

It's a shame, because I'd pick it up just to support the sub sim genre if the DRM weren't attached, despite the fact that I hear it's pretty craptastic. Until the DRM goes, though, I won't touch it.

Adriatico · 03-19-10, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TDK1044

When rumors of Silent Hunter 5 started to surface in September of 2008,...

You mean when nasty salvo of Ubi torpedos hit the GWX4 project... aleady half finished...

Noren · 03-19-10, 01:42 PM

Salvos from ubisoft? Please elaborate!

Yorktown_Class · 03-19-10, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitman

Well ...

-I'm having a huge fun sinking tonnage with my uboat,
-I'm delighted with the superb graphics, detailed models, and amazing explosions and effects, as well as the realistic water
-I'm loving being able to play a hammered out game with most bugs and glitches solved
-I'm enjoy playing my game anytime, anywhere I want

Oh, did I forgot to say it?

I'm playing just SH3 and SH4 UBM

LOL Me too

Catfish · 03-19-10, 01:58 PM

Hello,
well in terms of completion, gameplay, historical accuracy and maybe some more features i still think Silent Hunter III is the simulation, especially with GWX or other mod packages, the later graphic improvements, lifeboats, realistic sinking times and whatnot, and this torpedo attack GUI from OneLifeCrisis/OLC.

Silent Hunter IV is not bad as well, there is already a complete german U-boat campaign possible, from Europe to the US, to Indonesia, with all kinds of historic events happening (Norway, Bismarck, Happy times and whatnot) and other improvements - and beautiful graphics !
And while it is not so complete as SH3, it has become an awesome sim. Unfortunately the GWX team stopped their efforts to further improve it, but others go on and what's already there is really very nice.
And no intrusive DRM, not even a disk check anymore. I just bought the U-boat add-on and the Gold edition a second time for a bargain, just to have the physical disk for an installation after a harddisk failure.

And i returned SH 5, i have not been able to play for the better part of three weeks, maybe 2 out of ten times, and never on the weekends (when i had time). I will maybe buy it later, when
a) the online requirement has been dropped
b) some more official patches are out, sorting out the most ugly bugs

It will certainly also improve over time with all those talented modders being "at it".

Greetings,
Catfish

03-19-10, 12:23 PM	#1
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Sad really 5 years ago in March of 2005, Silent Hunter III was released. Here we are five years later, and not only are many of the bugs and glitches the same or similar, but the end users now have to try and play the game online using unreliable Ubisoft servers. When rumors of Silent Hunter 5 started to surface in September of 2008, my initial reaction was "please let this be a 2011 release". Once the March 2010 release date was confirmed, so were my worst fears. I've asked my wife to look at purchasing this game for me for Christmas, but only if it's under $20 and can be played offline.

03-19-10, 12:31 PM	#5
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Well ... -I'm having a huge fun sinking tonnage with my uboat, -I'm delighted with the superb graphics, detailed models, and amazing explosions and effects, as well as the realistic water -I'm loving being able to play a hammered out game with most bugs and glitches solved -I'm enjoy playing my game anytime, anywhere I want Oh, did I forgot to say it? I'm playing just SH3 and SH4 UBM __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

03-19-10, 12:38 PM	#7
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Well, maybe Ubi will see the light and fix the game. Like you I'm ready and willing to buy a DRM free game that fixes many of the glitches. My price point seems to be higher than yours, but I don't see that mattering as the first two requirements block any consideration of price... I can't get over Ubi's attitude about the whole thing. This is how it is and if you don't like it too bad, don't buy it. I smile and say okay! Bet they blink first. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

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03-19-10, 12:27 PM	#2
Cavell Sailor man Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 43 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Guess she better start looking for a nice tie.

03-19-10, 12:44 PM	#9
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I'd buy a DRM-free version for whatever the price was, even though I don't see myself playing it at all. I have to say, I'm fascinated by some of the campaign and AI modding possibilities, but I simply will not buy it if there is even a remote chance that I might ever be disallowed play (in my case modding) through any fault other than my own system, regardless of the duration of the problem. If that chance is demonstrated to be impossible, I'd reconsider. It is certainly strange and sad that so many stock sh3 and 4 bugs have propagated into this title as well.

03-19-10, 01:42 PM	#13
Noren 中国水兵 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 284 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Salvos from ubisoft? Please elaborate!

03-19-10, 01:58 PM	#15
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,766 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Hello, well in terms of completion, gameplay, historical accuracy and maybe some more features i still think Silent Hunter III is the simulation, especially with GWX or other mod packages, the later graphic improvements, lifeboats, realistic sinking times and whatnot, and this torpedo attack GUI from OneLifeCrisis/OLC. Silent Hunter IV is not bad as well, there is already a complete german U-boat campaign possible, from Europe to the US, to Indonesia, with all kinds of historic events happening (Norway, Bismarck, Happy times and whatnot) and other improvements - and beautiful graphics ! And while it is not so complete as SH3, it has become an awesome sim. Unfortunately the GWX team stopped their efforts to further improve it, but others go on and what's already there is really very nice. And no intrusive DRM, not even a disk check anymore. I just bought the U-boat add-on and the Gold edition a second time for a bargain, just to have the physical disk for an installation after a harddisk failure. And i returned SH 5, i have not been able to play for the better part of three weeks, maybe 2 out of ten times, and never on the weekends (when i had time). I will maybe buy it later, when a) the online requirement has been dropped b) some more official patches are out, sorting out the most ugly bugs It will certainly also improve over time with all those talented modders being "at it". Greetings, Catfish