SUBSIM is dying

Accer · 03-09-10, 11:39 AM

Neal you should replace some of your immature forum admins for the greater good of this community. Seriously. I just had my third account deleted without legit reason. I did not encourage piracy nor did I post anything illegal or against forum rules. Free speech however seems to be an endangered species these days. I registered this last time only to say goodbye. I have been a supported for over 15 years. It's been fun participating, and especially when we contributed with feedback to East and his team during the development of Enigma. I was even quoted on the cover.

Subsim is a rather small and fragile community. The mess UBI caused is already demoralizing most if not all member, and the inappropriate behavior by some forum admins do not make things better. Because of this behavior (deleting accounts with no warning or explanation to why) I choose not to participate at all.

Good luck with everything. I hope to see subsim.com still active in a couple of years.
Regards / bratkorv / bratwurst / joogrr

FIREWALL · 03-09-10, 11:50 AM

Even tho I don't know who your original User name was... you omitted to use it in post.

I have to admitt you weren't rude and just spoke your mind in an adult manner.

I wish you the best of luck.

Oberon · 03-09-10, 11:50 AM

Captains: 43,437, Captains visited in the last 24 hours: 12,164

Small? Dying?

FIREWALL · 03-09-10, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Captains: 43,437, Captains visited in the last 24 hours: 12,164

Small? Dying?

That's Childish.. I would have thought better from you.

Oberon · 03-09-10, 12:08 PM

Well, I find it hard to believe such dramatic announcements. Subsim is not dying, it's been going strong for ten years and bar server fires I should imagine that it will be still going strong in another ten years.
People are getting rather emotional over Silent Hunter V, I rarely look in the SHV forum but when I do it seems to be a divide of good and bad opinions and many threads on a similar subject, in other words, pretty much the same thing that happened when SHIII came out just a bit more in volume because there's more people on this forum now than when SHIII came out.
So, while Accer may have a genuine grievance with moderators in the SHV forum, that's surely something between him and the moderators to resolve by PM as opposed to making a fantastic claim that Subsim is dying. Aside from server overload caused by the sheer size of Subsim at the moment (which is growing because of new members joining over SHV) the rest of Subsim is doing just fine, only in the SHV forum is there something akin to a bush fire, and that's business as usual for a new release.

Seriously, I have nothing against Accer, and, like I said, if there is a problem with the moderators surely this is something to be sent in an email or PM to Neal rather than hanging it up in public where people can hurl dung at moderators with gay abandon. This is not a public pillory.
Issues like this are best resolved with emails or PMs, nothing good ever comes out of airing ones dirty laundry in public.

If you expected better from me, well then I'm sorry to disappoint you, but that's how I feel and as much as I respect how you and Accer feel, I ask that you also respect how I feel.

nikimcbee · 03-09-10, 12:09 PM

FIREWALL · 03-09-10, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

And your contribution to SubSim is to fuel the fire.

Where I come from we call them Bottom Feeders.

And btw Oberon I always respected you.

NeonSamurai · 03-09-10, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Accer

Neal you should replace some of your immature forum admins for the greater good of this community. Seriously. I just had my third account deleted without legit reason. I did not encourage piracy nor did I post anything illegal or against forum rules. Free speech however seems to be an endangered species these days. I registered this last time only to say goodbye. I have been a supported for over 15 years. It's been fun participating, and especially when we contributed with feedback to East and his team during the development of Enigma. I was even quoted on the cover.

You encouraged using cracks, and talked about cracking SH5 which is very much against the rules here.

Quote:

What is Subsim.com's stance in relation to warez and piracy? SUBSIM Review has a longstanding policy against software piracy. We do NOT allow discussion or even mention of warez, abandonware, peer-to-peer game swapping, illegal download sites, or rip-off websites. Nothing will get you banned faster than pointing people to illegal software distribution sites. Don't ask for serial numbers, manuals, or cracks. Any admission that you have in your possession illegal software can and usually will result in revocation of your Radio Room forum account. Support computer game programmers buy legally purchasing their work. They have to eat too, you know.

Hacked exe's are considered illegal in several countries, and are not permitted to be discussed here.

Plain and simple the rule is don't ask don't tell. We don't care what you do on your own system, just don't tell us about it if it is potentially illegal (particularly if it is illegal in the US where this site is hosted). If you tell us you are using cracks or pirated material we will be forced to act.

Dowly · 03-09-10, 12:21 PM

You on the drink again Firewall? Or just haven't get laid lately as you seem to be a bit tense at times.

@OP

As for freedom of speech, that is for Neal to decide. This isn't a democracy, but a privately hosted website.

FIREWALL · 03-09-10, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

You on the drink again Firewall? Or just haven't get laid lately as you seem to be a bit tense at times.

@OP

As for freedom of speech, that is for Neal to decide. This isn't a democracy, but a privately hosted website.

Kinda the Pot calling the Kettle Black huh ?

Hitman · 03-09-10, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Neal you should replace some of your immature forum admins for the greater good of this community. Seriously. I just had my third account deleted without legit reason. I did not encourage piracy nor did I post anything illegal or against forum rules. Free speech however seems to be an endangered species these days. I registered this last time only to say goodbye. I have been a supported for over 15 years. It's been fun participating, and especially when we contributed with feedback to East and his team during the development of Enigma. I was even quoted on the cover.

Subsim is a rather small and fragile community. The mess UBI caused is already demoralizing most if not all member, and the inappropriate behavior by some forum admins do not make things better. Because of this behavior (deleting accounts with no warning or explanation to why) I choose not to participate at all.

Good luck with everything. I hope to see subsim.com still active in a couple of years.
Regards / bratkorv / bratwurst / joogrr

What exactly leads you to believe that subsim.com is a democracy with constitutional rights?

Man, this is a private forum, Neal's house, and we follow Neal's rules. Would you enter Neal's house without his permission, walk in front of him and take a beer from the refrigerator while invoking your fundamental, constitutional rights? You want to be here? Fine, you are invited. But follow the rules. Else, you are also kindly invited to go and open your own forum, where you can enforce as many rights as you please.

Seriously, you seem to have a problem understanding the nature of things

Ships-R-Us · 03-09-10, 12:40 PM

WOW HITMAN

That was great, aside from your viewpoint as a judge; I am guilty myself of forgetting that this is a private forum, and most of us were welcomed guests at one time. Thanks for the "wake up".

SteamWake · 03-09-10, 01:26 PM

LOL he went through all the trouble to create a new account just to blast the admins..

Kind of funny actually.

frau kaleun · 03-09-10, 01:28 PM

As always, Groucho did it best.

kranz · 03-09-10, 03:16 PM

actually I must agree with Hitman.(I was in the brig twice). Neal's forum=Neal's rules. BUT-sometimes it happens that you write sth and you go to the brig or you end up banned without a chance to explain what you meant.(my second case).But most of times you get several warnings etc so it's not like getting a punishment for nothing. In fact you have already made 4 accounts to carry on with your story...You are a trouble maker so don't blame the staff.

03-09-10, 11:39 AM	#1
Accer Bilge Rat Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	SUBSIM is dying Neal you should replace some of your immature forum admins for the greater good of this community. Seriously. I just had my third account deleted without legit reason. I did not encourage piracy nor did I post anything illegal or against forum rules. Free speech however seems to be an endangered species these days. I registered this last time only to say goodbye. I have been a supported for over 15 years. It's been fun participating, and especially when we contributed with feedback to East and his team during the development of Enigma. I was even quoted on the cover. Subsim is a rather small and fragile community. The mess UBI caused is already demoralizing most if not all member, and the inappropriate behavior by some forum admins do not make things better. Because of this behavior (deleting accounts with no warning or explanation to why) I choose not to participate at all. Good luck with everything. I hope to see subsim.com still active in a couple of years. Regards / bratkorv / bratwurst / joogrr

03-09-10, 11:50 AM	#2
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Even tho I don't know who your original User name was... you omitted to use it in post. I have to admitt you weren't rude and just spoke your mind in an adult manner. I wish you the best of luck. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

03-09-10, 12:09 PM	#6
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	__________________

03-09-10, 01:26 PM	#13
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	LOL he went through all the trouble to create a new account just to blast the admins.. Kind of funny actually. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

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03-09-10, 11:50 AM	#3
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Captains: 43,437, Captains visited in the last 24 hours: 12,164 Small? Dying?

03-09-10, 12:08 PM	#5
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Well, I find it hard to believe such dramatic announcements. Subsim is not dying, it's been going strong for ten years and bar server fires I should imagine that it will be still going strong in another ten years. People are getting rather emotional over Silent Hunter V, I rarely look in the SHV forum but when I do it seems to be a divide of good and bad opinions and many threads on a similar subject, in other words, pretty much the same thing that happened when SHIII came out just a bit more in volume because there's more people on this forum now than when SHIII came out. So, while Accer may have a genuine grievance with moderators in the SHV forum, that's surely something between him and the moderators to resolve by PM as opposed to making a fantastic claim that Subsim is dying. Aside from server overload caused by the sheer size of Subsim at the moment (which is growing because of new members joining over SHV) the rest of Subsim is doing just fine, only in the SHV forum is there something akin to a bush fire, and that's business as usual for a new release. Seriously, I have nothing against Accer, and, like I said, if there is a problem with the moderators surely this is something to be sent in an email or PM to Neal rather than hanging it up in public where people can hurl dung at moderators with gay abandon. This is not a public pillory. Issues like this are best resolved with emails or PMs, nothing good ever comes out of airing ones dirty laundry in public. If you expected better from me, well then I'm sorry to disappoint you, but that's how I feel and as much as I respect how you and Accer feel, I ask that you also respect how I feel.

03-09-10, 12:21 PM	#9
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	You on the drink again Firewall? Or just haven't get laid lately as you seem to be a bit tense at times. @OP As for freedom of speech, that is for Neal to decide. This isn't a democracy, but a privately hosted website.

03-09-10, 12:40 PM	#12
Ships-R-Us Commander Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 452 Downloads: 134 Uploads: 0	WOW HITMAN That was great, aside from your viewpoint as a judge; I am guilty myself of forgetting that this is a private forum, and most of us were welcomed guests at one time. Thanks for the "wake up".

03-09-10, 01:28 PM	#14
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	As always, Groucho did it best.

03-09-10, 03:16 PM	#15
kranz The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Poland Posts: 1,430 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	actually I must agree with Hitman.(I was in the brig twice). Neal's forum=Neal's rules. BUT-sometimes it happens that you write sth and you go to the brig or you end up banned without a chance to explain what you meant.(my second case).But most of times you get several warnings etc so it's not like getting a punishment for nothing. In fact you have already made 4 accounts to carry on with your story...You are a trouble maker so don't blame the staff.