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Accer 03-09-10 11:39 AM

SUBSIM is dying
 
Neal you should replace some of your immature forum admins for the greater good of this community. Seriously. I just had my third account deleted without legit reason. I did not encourage piracy nor did I post anything illegal or against forum rules. Free speech however seems to be an endangered species these days. I registered this last time only to say goodbye. I have been a supported for over 15 years. It's been fun participating, and especially when we contributed with feedback to East and his team during the development of Enigma. I was even quoted on the cover.

Subsim is a rather small and fragile community. The mess UBI caused is already demoralizing most if not all member, and the inappropriate behavior by some forum admins do not make things better. Because of this behavior (deleting accounts with no warning or explanation to why) I choose not to participate at all.

Good luck with everything. I hope to see subsim.com still active in a couple of years.
Regards / bratkorv / bratwurst / joogrr

FIREWALL 03-09-10 11:50 AM

Even tho I don't know who your original User name was... you omitted to use it in post.

I have to admitt you weren't rude and just spoke your mind in an adult manner.

I wish you the best of luck. :yep:

Oberon 03-09-10 11:50 AM

Captains: 43,437, Captains visited in the last 24 hours: 12,164

Small? Dying? :hmmm:

FIREWALL 03-09-10 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1304580)
Captains: 43,437, Captains visited in the last 24 hours: 12,164

Small? Dying? :hmmm:

That's Childish.. I would have thought better from you. :nope:

Oberon 03-09-10 12:08 PM

Well, I find it hard to believe such dramatic announcements. Subsim is not dying, it's been going strong for ten years and bar server fires I should imagine that it will be still going strong in another ten years.
People are getting rather emotional over Silent Hunter V, I rarely look in the SHV forum but when I do it seems to be a divide of good and bad opinions and many threads on a similar subject, in other words, pretty much the same thing that happened when SHIII came out just a bit more in volume because there's more people on this forum now than when SHIII came out.
So, while Accer may have a genuine grievance with moderators in the SHV forum, that's surely something between him and the moderators to resolve by PM as opposed to making a fantastic claim that Subsim is dying. Aside from server overload caused by the sheer size of Subsim at the moment (which is growing because of new members joining over SHV) the rest of Subsim is doing just fine, only in the SHV forum is there something akin to a bush fire, and that's business as usual for a new release.

Seriously, I have nothing against Accer, and, like I said, if there is a problem with the moderators surely this is something to be sent in an email or PM to Neal rather than hanging it up in public where people can hurl dung at moderators with gay abandon. This is not a public pillory.
Issues like this are best resolved with emails or PMs, nothing good ever comes out of airing ones dirty laundry in public.

If you expected better from me, well then I'm sorry to disappoint you, but that's how I feel and as much as I respect how you and Accer feel, I ask that you also respect how I feel.

nikimcbee 03-09-10 12:09 PM

:har:

FIREWALL 03-09-10 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 1304614)
:har:

And your contribution to SubSim is to fuel the fire.

Where I come from we call them Bottom Feeders.

And btw Oberon I always respected you. :yep:

NeonSamurai 03-09-10 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Accer (Post 1304554)
Neal you should replace some of your immature forum admins for the greater good of this community. Seriously. I just had my third account deleted without legit reason. I did not encourage piracy nor did I post anything illegal or against forum rules. Free speech however seems to be an endangered species these days. I registered this last time only to say goodbye. I have been a supported for over 15 years. It's been fun participating, and especially when we contributed with feedback to East and his team during the development of Enigma. I was even quoted on the cover.

You encouraged using cracks, and talked about cracking SH5 which is very much against the rules here.

Quote:

What is Subsim.com's stance in relation to warez and piracy? SUBSIM Review has a longstanding policy against software piracy. We do NOT allow discussion or even mention of warez, abandonware, peer-to-peer game swapping, illegal download sites, or rip-off websites. Nothing will get you banned faster than pointing people to illegal software distribution sites. Don't ask for serial numbers, manuals, or cracks. Any admission that you have in your possession illegal software can and usually will result in revocation of your Radio Room forum account. Support computer game programmers buy legally purchasing their work. They have to eat too, you know.
Hacked exe's are considered illegal in several countries, and are not permitted to be discussed here.


Plain and simple the rule is don't ask don't tell. We don't care what you do on your own system, just don't tell us about it if it is potentially illegal (particularly if it is illegal in the US where this site is hosted). If you tell us you are using cracks or pirated material we will be forced to act.

Dowly 03-09-10 12:21 PM

You on the drink again Firewall? Or just haven't get laid lately as you seem to be a bit tense at times. :hmmm:

@OP

As for freedom of speech, that is for Neal to decide. This isn't a democracy, but a privately hosted website.

FIREWALL 03-09-10 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1304648)
You on the drink again Firewall? Or just haven't get laid lately as you seem to be a bit tense at times. :hmmm:

@OP

As for freedom of speech, that is for Neal to decide. This isn't a democracy, but a privately hosted website.

Kinda the Pot calling the Kettle Black huh ?

Hitman 03-09-10 12:27 PM

Quote:

Neal you should replace some of your immature forum admins for the greater good of this community. Seriously. I just had my third account deleted without legit reason. I did not encourage piracy nor did I post anything illegal or against forum rules. Free speech however seems to be an endangered species these days. I registered this last time only to say goodbye. I have been a supported for over 15 years. It's been fun participating, and especially when we contributed with feedback to East and his team during the development of Enigma. I was even quoted on the cover.

Subsim is a rather small and fragile community. The mess UBI caused is already demoralizing most if not all member, and the inappropriate behavior by some forum admins do not make things better. Because of this behavior (deleting accounts with no warning or explanation to why) I choose not to participate at all.

Good luck with everything. I hope to see subsim.com still active in a couple of years.
Regards / bratkorv / bratwurst / joogrr
What exactly leads you to believe that subsim.com is a democracy with constitutional rights?

Man, this is a private forum, Neal's house, and we follow Neal's rules. Would you enter Neal's house without his permission, walk in front of him and take a beer from the refrigerator while invoking your fundamental, constitutional rights? You want to be here? Fine, you are invited. But follow the rules. Else, you are also kindly invited to go and open your own forum, where you can enforce as many rights as you please.

Seriously, you seem to have a problem understanding the nature of things :hmmm:

Ships-R-Us 03-09-10 12:40 PM

WOW HITMAN :rock:That was great, aside from your viewpoint as a judge; I am guilty myself of forgetting that this is a private forum, and most of us were welcomed guests at one time. Thanks for the "wake up".

SteamWake 03-09-10 01:26 PM

LOL he went through all the trouble to create a new account just to blast the admins..

Kind of funny actually.

frau kaleun 03-09-10 01:28 PM

As always, Groucho did it best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6yLRmo7CjU

kranz 03-09-10 03:16 PM

actually I must agree with Hitman.(I was in the brig twice). Neal's forum=Neal's rules. BUT-sometimes it happens that you write sth and you go to the brig or you end up banned without a chance to explain what you meant.(my second case).But most of times you get several warnings etc so it's not like getting a punishment for nothing. In fact you have already made 4 accounts to carry on with your story...You are a trouble maker so don't blame the staff.


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