So which way do you lean?

[GoldenRivet]

Think about it guys.

Though upon initial release we wont get the Type II or the IX or XXI subs.

what we get in exchange is a Type VII sub that is 3D modeled and simulated from the forward tubes to the stern tubes. - that has been a BIG TICKET ITEM on the subsim wish list for a long time for a lot of players.

secondly, though the stock campaign ends in 1943... i think ubisoft has a strategic overall reason for doing this.

Dan "The Man" has said himself that SHV was made to be MORE modder friendly. Just like every subsim we have seen, SHV will grow and mature through modification to the liking of virtually everyone here!

whenever the devs close a hatch, they open a MBT vent! (or whenver they close a door they open a window if you prefer)

another BIG TICKET ITEM on a lot of subsimmers wish lists have been full crew with the option to interact with the crew members - even if on some limited scale.

i am encouraged by the interview with members of the dev team as they have indicated that this exact item has been implemented.

think about it people!!!

think of all the things SH3 and SH4 have that they didnt come with stock

playable surface ships, AI subs, Kiel Canal, hundreds of added surface ships, tweaked AI

the list goes ever onward.

previous installments of the Silent Hunter series were not without their bugs, errors, mistakes, overlooked items etc...

SHV will have problems and wont meet everyones taste.

at first anyway.

but the Dev team IS looking out for us in the long run.

Have faith in your dev team, though sometimes it might seem like they have ulterior motives - they are working for you!

Working for me?
I don't think so.

SH5 is not fit to polish SH3's boots.

As it stands now, Ubisoft can keep SH5, and I can keep my money.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Snestorm

Working for me?
I don't think so.

SH5 is not fit to polish SH3's boots.

As it stands now, Ubisoft can keep SH5, and I can keep my money.

fair enough,

but i dont want to see you playing it this time next year when the smash hit supermods are released.

[karamazovnew]

Just one thing pisses me off.... The Q&A on the Ubi forum. They should've announced these "features" since September when we were still picking our jaws from the floor after the first trailer! Instead they told us to use our own toilets, ffs!

Otherwise, I'm still game. The things that bother me most are the Dive teleport thing and the crew disappearing below decks. On the other hand you wouldn't be able to remain on deck to see them. Still, I would've loved to see them descent down the stairs and take their places.

[Mikhayl]

That's the spirit

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

what we get in exchange is a Type VII sub that is 3D modeled and simulated from the forward tubes to the stern tubes. - that has been a BIG TICKET ITEM on the subsim wish list for a long time for a lot of players.

Very true! Why do so many people forget that after SH3, one of the most popular wish items for SH4 was a fully explorable sub?

[misfitdreamer]

im with goldenrivet here 100%. i think the developers are doing a very impressive job with overhauling the game engine and making alll the new features work into the game. i'm excited. and from what i have seen, though it may not include everything we want, the games got alot of finesse. im even impressed with how lifelike the crew animations are (the sonar man at rest while cruising on the surface comes to mind.) sh5, for what it is, seems to be very polished in appearance.

and you know, ubisoft doesn't have to make another silent hunter for us. they just know that there are people out there, like us! who love subsims.

Originally Posted by karamazovnew

Otherwise, I'm still game. The things that bother me most are the Dive teleport thing and the crew disappearing below decks. On the other hand you wouldn't be able to remain on deck to see them. Still, I would've loved to see them descent down the stairs and take their places.

while i admit that's a moot point, i really think that those features could cause problems for the game. i mean.. how fast the sub submerges is therefore dependent on how fast your crew AND YOURSELF get down the ladder. might be kinda hard to squeeze down the conning tower all together.

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

fair enough,

but i dont want to see you playing it this time next year when the smash hit supermods are released.

That's fair.
The only mod I have on SH3 is Wolfies SubTweek, so I can have my torpedoes in the correct tubes.

[cappy70]

So very true,,I remember waaaaaaay back,,(see my join date) how this " take-a-walk-through-the-sub" was on everybodies wishlist and here it is finally coming. That is a MEGA HUGE thing for the SH-series. in spite of talk about the campaign length and or/any other issue.
Smile, be happy....

[THE_MASK]

Good post , the countdown is on . Should be some interesting reading on the forum until release LOL .

[Ducimus]

From the sounds of things, all SH5 is, is Das boot the video game. Yeah sure an fully rendered interior is fantastic, but i find that for most of my gameplay in this series as so far, 90% of the time is spent in the nav map and periscope or TBT/UZO, swapping between the two via hotkey. A fully rendered interior to my style of play is a joy short lived.

So you have more graphics, more roleplaying, and more das boot, but what you don't have is more simulation. Technical aspects that are missing that should be included, furthered, or refined. So gameplay wise, aside from the campaign that sounds like it wants to rewrite history, it seems like its going to be identical to SH3 and SH4. Couple that with the war "ending" in 43, and a total absence of my favorite uboat types , ( let alone my preferred theater and subs ), my verdict is:

Meh. Not interested.

If it at least had a type 9C, i'd probably sing a different tune.

[Carotio]

Well, I was positive for a very long time, but...

Anyone remember this interview?

The interview is uploaded to youtube back in December, the 17th

Around 1:40, Dan talks about Operation Drumbeat just outside New York.

Let's have a look at uboat.net then:
http://www.uboat.net/ops/drumbeat.htm

Now, howcome did one get the feeling that IX boats would be part of SH5 then...

YES, I think the full interior is a BIG step FORWARD, but I also think not adding the types from SH3: II, IX & XXI is a BIG step BACKWARDS.
And starting to make speculations now, whether the customers have to pay extra, and by download no less, for these extra types, without clarification from the dev team right from the start, will of course lead to unsatisfaction, and even worse if it's true.
I have been through numerous forums of different languages, and I have seen plenty of other people criticising this important lack of content.

Okay, so they may make the early part as perfect as possible, and add the last part of the war in an add on, so they get more time to make that part perfect too. Fair enough that they postpone the XXI till then, and all that other late-war technology. And sure, okay then, I would pay for such an add on.
But the II and IX types belong to the early part just as much as the type VII, and they should definitely have those types in the game from the start before it's released, and if not, they should at least add them as part of free patches. And not enforce it as pay downloads. That won't be fair.
And they should acknowledge that a large group of users demand these types, and thus interact more with us. Yes, I said us. Again, I'll refer to the poll, which was made here: we want all the types.

So clarification from the dev team is kindly requested.

Now since it's night here in Europe, and the devs won't answer anytime soon anyway, I'm off to bed and won't be bothering you anymore anytime soon....

[GoldenRivet]

@carotio...

Type VII boats did in fact operate in American Waters for Operation Drumbeat.

several of them in fact.

[Carotio]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

@carotio...

Type VII boats did in fact operate in American Waters for Operation Drumbeat.

several of them in fact.

Maybe, but still it's the IX boats who comes into mind for the long-range patrols, which American waters are...

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

@carotio...

Type VII boats did in fact operate in American Waters for Operation Drumbeat.

several of them in fact.

Sorry.
Operation Drumbeat: 5 boats.
U66 IXC
U109 IXB
U123 IXB
U125 IXC
U130 IXC

Not a VII in the lot.