Holy ! Pandemic bill allows health authorities to enter homes, detain without warrant

SteamWake · 09-02-09, 09:51 AM

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A "pandemic response bill" currently making its way through the Massachusetts state legislature would allow authorities to forcefully quarantine citizens in the event of a health emergency, compel health providers to vaccinate citizens, authorize forceful entry into private dwellings and destruction of citizen property and impose fines on citizens for noncompliance.

What in the hell is goin on here !

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=108604

09-02-09, 09:56 AM

The sick people are upstairs.

09-02-09, 10:10 AM

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What in the hell is goin on here !

All of the stuff that article complains about is already in the existing bill which has been on the books for well over 50 years that these amendments update.
Another WND non-story.

Skybird · 09-02-09, 11:03 AM

The only problem lies in whether or not a state of pandemics is correctly identified and defined or not. that individuals being ill and infectious and carrying a dangerous desease shall not be allowed to run around freely and infest more and more parts of the population, should be taken as plain and healthy reason, and according laws are already valid in Germany and I am sure in almost all western nations, too. A mild exmaple are chickenpox: in Germany you are forbidden to use public transportation when bringing your kid to the doctor. That is because the desease it extremely infectious.

But what also should be considered is that in UN health boards deciding on global pandemics policies, like swine flu recently, the balance between independent experts and lobbyists of the pharmaceutical industry has seriously and dangerously been shifted towards the industry lobbyists. And these of course have an interest to lower the treshhold for pandemic defintions - so that the companies paying them their fees can sell off larger quantities of their drugs, and earlier. Right now it already is common legal practice that companies invent - yes: invent - new deseases, syndroms and definitions of deseases in order to artifically create a market for some new drugs they have created. The easier it is to define the greater ammounts of the population as "ill", the higher the profits are these companies can make the earlier.

Business and politics must be kept strictly seperate and independant from each other, else a democratic system necessarily gets hijacked and degenerates into a hidden tyranny by the few. Lobbyism of any kind should be forbidden (and for reasons of deterrance should be put under maximum penalties]. Economic lobbyism is nothing else but legalised corruption and ursurpation of political powers by economic actors who have no democratic political legitimation by the people at all, but explicitly avoid that process and find a workaround for it.

Insiders say that in EU headquarters in Brussel, per one member of EU parliament you have 40-50 organised, professional, payed lobbyists of the private industry. US is famous for extreme economic lobbyism as well. Such a constellation no political structure claiming to be free and democratic can survive. It gets replaced by all-out corruption. To declare that one wants to fight against corruption, becomes a meaningless phrase, then. It is impossible, since it is all aorund you and the whole system breathes in in and out and cannot be anymore without it.

SteamWake · 09-02-09, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

All of the stuff that article complains about is already in the existing bill which has been on the books for well over 50 years that these amendments update.
Another WND non-story.

Then why pass another bill?

AVGWarhawk · 09-02-09, 11:41 AM

Soylent Green

FIREWALL · 09-02-09, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Then why pass another bill?

Because Tribesman and a few others decides what you should post.

If it doesn't coinside with their tinhat theorys it shouldn't be posted.

I think it's called " censoring "

Stealth Hunter · 09-02-09, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Then why pass another bill?

Because we're dealing with new pandemic things that people 50 years ago didn't have to face, like AIDS, avian flu, swine flu, etc.

donut · 09-02-09, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Because Tribesman and a few others decides what you should post.

If it doesn't coincide with their tin hat theory's it shouldn't be posted.

I think it's called " censoring "

Ignore list.

Stealth Hunter · 09-02-09, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Because Tribesman and a few others decides what you should post.

THE NEW WORLD ORDER DOES THE SAME THING WITH THE MEDIA. THEY ARE ACTING ON THE WILL OF THE ALIENS.

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

If it doesn't coinside with their tinhat theorys it shouldn't be posted.

ALL THE NUCLEAR MISSILES ARE UNDER MY CONTROL NOW. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY LOCKED ME UP IN SOLITARY FOR 12 YEARS? BECAUSE I CAN LAUNCH THE GOVERNMENT'S WARHEADS BY SIMPLY WHISTLING INTO A PHONE.

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

I think it's called " censoring "

YOU SEE? REPTILIAN DEATH RAY.

FIREWALL · 09-02-09, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

THE NEW WORLD ORDER DOES THE SAME THING WITH THE MEDIA. THEY ARE ACTING ON THE WILL OF THE ALIENS.

ALL THE NUCLEAR MISSILES ARE UNDER MY CONTROL NOW. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY LOCKED ME UP IN SOLITARY FOR 12 YEARS? BECAUSE I CAN LAUNCH THE GOVERNMENT'S WARHEADS BY SIMPLY WHISTLING INTO A PHONE.

YOU SEE? REPTILIAN DEATH RAY.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

SteamWake · 09-02-09, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

THE NEW WORLD ORDER DOES THE SAME THING WITH THE MEDIA. THEY ARE ACTING ON THE WILL OF THE ALIENS.

ALL THE NUCLEAR MISSILES ARE UNDER MY CONTROL NOW. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY LOCKED ME UP IN SOLITARY FOR 12 YEARS? BECAUSE I CAN LAUNCH THE GOVERNMENT'S WARHEADS BY SIMPLY WHISTLING INTO A PHONE.

YOU SEE? REPTILIAN DEATH RAY.

That post should ring a few bells on big brother

Raptor1 · 09-02-09, 05:55 PM

The Thought Police is under way!

Stealth Hunter · 09-02-09, 05:58 PM

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Takeda Shingen · 09-02-09, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Those sentences have always chilled me. Still do.

09-02-09, 11:03 AM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,629 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The only problem lies in whether or not a state of pandemics is correctly identified and defined or not. that individuals being ill and infectious and carrying a dangerous desease shall not be allowed to run around freely and infest more and more parts of the population, should be taken as plain and healthy reason, and according laws are already valid in Germany and I am sure in almost all western nations, too. A mild exmaple are chickenpox: in Germany you are forbidden to use public transportation when bringing your kid to the doctor. That is because the desease it extremely infectious. But what also should be considered is that in UN health boards deciding on global pandemics policies, like swine flu recently, the balance between independent experts and lobbyists of the pharmaceutical industry has seriously and dangerously been shifted towards the industry lobbyists. And these of course have an interest to lower the treshhold for pandemic defintions - so that the companies paying them their fees can sell off larger quantities of their drugs, and earlier. Right now it already is common legal practice that companies invent - yes: invent - new deseases, syndroms and definitions of deseases in order to artifically create a market for some new drugs they have created. The easier it is to define the greater ammounts of the population as "ill", the higher the profits are these companies can make the earlier. Business and politics must be kept strictly seperate and independant from each other, else a democratic system necessarily gets hijacked and degenerates into a hidden tyranny by the few. Lobbyism of any kind should be forbidden (and for reasons of deterrance should be put under maximum penalties]. Economic lobbyism is nothing else but legalised corruption and ursurpation of political powers by economic actors who have no democratic political legitimation by the people at all, but explicitly avoid that process and find a workaround for it. Insiders say that in EU headquarters in Brussel, per one member of EU parliament you have 40-50 organised, professional, payed lobbyists of the private industry. US is famous for extreme economic lobbyism as well. Such a constellation no political structure claiming to be free and democratic can survive. It gets replaced by all-out corruption. To declare that one wants to fight against corruption, becomes a meaningless phrase, then. It is impossible, since it is all aorund you and the whole system breathes in in and out and cannot be anymore without it. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.