Casualties of war movie...

[Thunder]

So i just finished watching Casualties of war ( michael j fox, sean penn) with a female friend of mine, and it started a lengthy discussion. So i thought i would throw it out here, because some of the discussions i've seen here, have been both insightful and informative.
So a few thoughts and questions. She said i could not comprehend rape,as depicted in the movie,not being a woman, i countered with a man in jail. Similar?

Further , are incidents of rape more prevalent during a war?
Post traumatic Stress ?

Is there incident of rape between animals, and if so does this tie in with humans?

Does IQ play any significance in cases?

I have a ton of questions (and i do have google) but i thought some of your ideas and comments would be interesting.

[Brag]

I think rape to a woman is something similar to being knifed in the gut for a man. But I doubt very much that men are capable in comprehending how a raped woman feels.

[Letum]

Further , are incidents of rape more prevalent during a war?

Yes, very much so in occupying forces.

Post traumatic Stress ?

As a cause? Perhaps in a few cases, but I suspect the following factors are more important.Putting

• a lot of young men who haven't had any in a while in one place is bound to cause more rape.
• Hedonism tends to take the driving seat if you might be dead in a few days/weeks/months.
• Often the military mentality is not very...subtle.
• Often the victims are seen as the "enemy" because they belong to the opposing nation.
• Convictions have historically been rare. Often a blind eye is turned. Armies have encouraged rape and looting many times.
• "closing of the ranks" inhibits any evidence gathering as well as often non-existent army/civilian relations.
• Prostitution goes up during occupations, this often leads to rape.

Is there incident of rape between animals, and if so does this tie in with humans?

Loads! It happens constantly for almost all animal species.
(LINK) Homosexual, Necrophiliac Rape amongst Mallard Ducks

It does tie in with humans in that it is somewhat genetically advantageous and so there is a genetic disposition for that kind of activity that has been inherited, but thats not much of a "link" really.

Does IQ play any significance in cases?

Yes, as with all crime, IQ has a stronger coloration than social class.

[Yahoshua]

From a wartime perspective: Rape (and looting, murder, and kidnapping) is more indicative of a breakdown in unit behavior and command. You'll see more incidents of rape with a unit that has been drafted but not well trained with low morale, as opposed to an all-volunteer unit with standard or better training and a high degree of morale.

Rape is also used as a weapon by agressors or as a means of revenge. Examples would include the Rwandan Genocide, The Nanjing Massacre, The Rape of Berlin, The fall of Saigon, the current Sudanese Genocide, and the developing conflicts in northern Nigeria.


From a civilian perspective: You'll find little, if any, reported incidents of rape against men since men tend to react to the incident far more aggresively than women. This is true for both jail-related incidents and street-crime.


As for animals, I couldn't care any less. I'm not as concerned of being raped by a koala than I am of "Big Bubba".

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Yahoshua

From a wartime perspective: Rape (and looting, murder, and kidnapping) is more indicative of a breakdown in unit behavior and command. You'll see more incidents of rape with a unit that has been drafted but not well trained with low morale, as opposed to an all-volunteer unit with standard or better training and a high degree of morale.

^ This.

You also tend to get more where there is a greater cultural and/or language differance.

[bradclark1]

Back in the day rape was used as a tool to cower the defeated. To make the enemy feel helpless. One of the earliest forms of psychological warfare. Rape isn't about sex(most of the time) it's about dominance and power.

are incidents of rape more prevalent during a war?

Depends if the forces are disciplined or not and what the political goals are. The Balkan's, it was a tool. In Darfur(?) it's a tool.

[Yahoshua]

Originally Posted by Letum

^ This.

You also tend to get more where there is a greater cultural and/or language differance.

Not necessarily cultural difference as it would be an ingrained and harbored hatred on one or both sides, but those feelings are accentuated and emphasized by culture. Kosovo and Serbia would be a textbook example.

[Iceman]

Many may disagree with me but here's my 2 cents...

Women were put into subjection of man by God for her part in disobeying God in the garden....punishment was dealt out accordingly...Satan,woman,man..in that order.

So since the begining of creation woman has been "under" man authortively speaking.

"Man" is the gulity one here that in he further corrupts what God has put in place.

By this I mean women and the Earth itself was put in our ,"Man's",charge to care for not to destroy and rape...rape the Earth or women.I do not think I need to give anyone a history lesson of how women are treated throughout recorded time from place to place.I also agree with that rape seems to be a form of asserting dominance over a person weather they be a man or a woman just like in prison.Men do rape men and I do not think it is all sexual there but more of a show of power.To me a person who rapes is the weakest form of a human alive.War for some it seems is like a green light to do things one would not may normally do thinking that the rules of morality are somehow on hold or do not apply...this again is a weak individual.

P.S. I like that movie too...Fox plays his role very good.