How big a threat are Torpedo Boats?

Antiacus · 02-21-08, 08:34 PM

I was stalking a merchant last night that was being escorted by a single torpedo boat. I was stationary at peri depth & he passed within 200 meters without detecting me at night in heavy seas... I was kinda curious as to what he might try if he did spot me. I ended up banging a torpedo off the side of the merchant because i was too worried to back up & was just a hair under 300m when he passed by.

They're limited to visual detection right?

Will they attack you if they spot your periscope?

Torplexed · 02-21-08, 09:02 PM

Torpedo boats aren't really much of a threat if you're submerged. They have no ASW weapons. The most they'll do is play the searchlight about if they think you're there. I suppose they could radio in the big boys tho. On the surface their machine guns can really cut up your deck and gun crews, especially if there is more than one of them.

Brag · 02-21-08, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed

Torpedo boats aren't really much of a threat if you're submerged. They have no ASW weapons. The most they'll do is play the searchlight about if they think you're there. I suppose they could radio in the big boys tho. On the surface their machine guns can really cut up your deck and gun crews, especially if there is more than one of them.

Nasty upstairs, no problem underwater.

silentrunner · 02-21-08, 10:54 PM

just don't let em run over your periscope

bookworm_020 · 02-22-08, 12:37 AM

Underwater your safe, but if they spot your periscope, they can call in help they could cause problems. You can take them out on the surface, but they can cause a lot of damage to your boat and crew, and for the tonnage, it isn't worth it, unless there is something good for you to go after!

StarFox · 02-22-08, 12:58 AM

I just shoot them with the Deck gun when they really really piss me off

otherwise just submerge and they will go away pretty quickly, they have no ASW gear

GoldenRivet · 02-22-08, 01:30 AM

in real life the were capable of torpedo attacks. Assuming they saw you first and crept up on you, by the time they went ahead flank and splashed their fish into the water it could be too late for you to evade the torpedo.

In SH3 the greatest threat is their radio... Every plane and destroyer in the area is headed your way at max speed if the torpedoe boat spots you.

Uncle Goose · 02-22-08, 01:40 AM

I was sunk by a couple of them lately while I was loading external torpedo's. It was foggy and didn't have a radar so they jumped on me and since my boat had already serious damage it didn't took much to get me sunk. They even managed to kill the entire watching crew, including the officer. They are stupid suckers, that's for sure.

Elmer Kosterman · 02-22-08, 05:33 AM

Do torpedo boats have a hydrophone?

Steel_Tomb · 02-22-08, 05:43 AM

EEesshh...PT boats. Not too bad normally, but if your trying to get past Gib then they're a BIG threat. That spotlight goes down on you and every DD in the area is onto you, in shallow water thats not good!

Konovalov · 02-22-08, 06:32 AM

With PT boats I just make sure that I'm not spotted because I don't want to have to deal with a few of his big buddies that he has called on the radio. They are a bit like mozzies in that they just guzz around your head. One thing I have learned with GWX is not to get into many surface gun duels with any armed vessel. The depths of the ocean is your friend.

kurtz · 02-22-08, 09:46 AM

I don't imagine I'll ever find the documentary evidence but I read an obit. in the telegraph of an MTB captain who pioneered the use of depth charges against merchant ships (by running alongside at high speed and rolling them off set to min depth).
As i said I'll try and find the cutting but I don't have much hope won't be 'till Saturday afternoon as I'm at work now and Friday night won't be spent searching out paper cuttings!

EDIT my point being that some motor boats did have depth charges as for the other gear I don't know but I have seen pics of early portable hydrophones.

STEED · 02-22-08, 10:48 AM

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How big a threat are Torpedo Boats?

None what so ever. :p

I love taking them on in my S-Boot and kicking there ass for a change. I took three of the sods on the other night and won.

Hanomag · 02-22-08, 11:47 AM

Kaluen,

As a rule in GWX when surfaced any enemy ship is a threat. A rowboat with a air rifle can critical damage your paper thin hull.

When ever I see seagulls in port over my ship I zig zag. God forbid they drop a clamshell on my IX and crush me.

Elmer Kosterman · 02-22-08, 11:54 AM

Does anyone know if torpedo boats in-game are equipped with hydrophones? Can they track a sub under water and direct reenforcements to submerged subs?

02-21-08, 08:34 PM	#1
Antiacus Medic Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Springfield, Oregon Posts: 161 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	How big a threat are Torpedo Boats? I was stalking a merchant last night that was being escorted by a single torpedo boat. I was stationary at peri depth & he passed within 200 meters without detecting me at night in heavy seas... I was kinda curious as to what he might try if he did spot me. I ended up banging a torpedo off the side of the merchant because i was too worried to back up & was just a hair under 300m when he passed by. They're limited to visual detection right? Will they attack you if they spot your periscope?

02-21-08, 09:02 PM	#2
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Torpedo boats aren't really much of a threat if you're submerged. They have no ASW weapons. The most they'll do is play the searchlight about if they think you're there. I suppose they could radio in the big boys tho. On the surface their machine guns can really cut up your deck and gun crews, especially if there is more than one of them. __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

02-21-08, 10:54 PM	#4
silentrunner Watch Officer Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mind your own business English Types Posts: 334 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	just don't let em run over your periscope __________________

02-22-08, 12:37 AM	#5
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Underwater your safe, but if they spot your periscope, they can call in help they could cause problems. You can take them out on the surface, but they can cause a lot of damage to your boat and crew, and for the tonnage, it isn't worth it, unless there is something good for you to go after! __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

02-22-08, 12:58 AM	#6
StarFox Engineer Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Denver, Colorado, USA Posts: 216 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	I just shoot them with the Deck gun when they really really piss me off otherwise just submerge and they will go away pretty quickly, they have no ASW gear __________________ Devoted fan of the SS United States, America's Flagship! I dream of her second life....

02-22-08, 01:30 AM	#7
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	in real life the were capable of torpedo attacks. Assuming they saw you first and crept up on you, by the time they went ahead flank and splashed their fish into the water it could be too late for you to evade the torpedo. In SH3 the greatest threat is their radio... Every plane and destroyer in the area is headed your way at max speed if the torpedoe boat spots you. __________________

02-22-08, 01:40 AM	#8
Uncle Goose Torpedoman Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 113 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I was sunk by a couple of them lately while I was loading external torpedo's. It was foggy and didn't have a radar so they jumped on me and since my boat had already serious damage it didn't took much to get me sunk. They even managed to kill the entire watching crew, including the officer. They are stupid suckers, that's for sure.

02-22-08, 05:33 AM	#9
Elmer Kosterman A-ganger Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: München Posts: 71 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Do torpedo boats have a hydrophone?

02-22-08, 05:43 AM	#10
Steel_Tomb Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cambridgeshire - UK Posts: 1,128 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	EEesshh...PT boats. Not too bad normally, but if your trying to get past Gib then they're a BIG threat. That spotlight goes down on you and every DD in the area is onto you, in shallow water thats not good! __________________ _______________________________________________ System Spec: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz \| 4Gb Corsair XMS2 Dominator DDR2 PC-2 6400 RAM \| XFX GeForce 8800GTS 640mb PCI-E \| Creative X-fi sound card \| 250Gb HDD \| *Rest In Peace Dave, you will be missed.*

02-22-08, 06:32 AM	#11
Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	With PT boats I just make sure that I'm not spotted because I don't want to have to deal with a few of his big buddies that he has called on the radio. They are a bit like mozzies in that they just guzz around your head. One thing I have learned with GWX is not to get into many surface gun duels with any armed vessel. The depths of the ocean is your friend. __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

02-22-08, 09:46 AM	#12
kurtz Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leighton Buzzard,England Posts: 660 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	I don't imagine I'll ever find the documentary evidence but I read an obit. in the telegraph of an MTB captain who pioneered the use of depth charges against merchant ships (by running alongside at high speed and rolling them off set to min depth). As i said I'll try and find the cutting but I don't have much hope won't be 'till Saturday afternoon as I'm at work now and Friday night won't be spent searching out paper cuttings! EDIT my point being that some motor boats did have depth charges as for the other gear I don't know but I have seen pics of early portable hydrophones. __________________ War without Fire is like sausages without mustard-Henry V. http://www.myvintagelife.co.uk/

02-22-08, 11:47 AM	#14
Hanomag Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: LI NY Posts: 964 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	who needs wassaboms! Kaluen, As a rule in GWX when surfaced any enemy ship is a threat. A rowboat with a air rifle can critical damage your paper thin hull. When ever I see seagulls in port over my ship I zig zag. God forbid they drop a clamshell on my IX and crush me. __________________ "Only if I can save first..."

02-22-08, 11:54 AM	#15
Elmer Kosterman A-ganger Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: München Posts: 71 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Does anyone know if torpedo boats in-game are equipped with hydrophones? Can they track a sub under water and direct reenforcements to submerged subs?

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