known bugs with XXI boats?

Laffertytig · 10-23-06, 12:16 PM

i just tryed a sungle mission in one of these subs and as soon as the mission started i got reports of damage.

what other bugs are there and have are there any fixes?

_Seth_ · 10-23-06, 12:33 PM

I havent tried the XXI in single missions, but i have experienced a minor bug: Before i start my patrol in the campaign mode (when i use the XXI), i get a report that the main pump is destroyed. It occurs when the loading screen turns into the game screen. Its at the same moment the sonar gets destroyed on the VIIC.... I dunno whats going on.. IIRC, it happends in the GW and in the NYGM mod. Not a big problem though, since my crew is well trained and has been out a winter night before, but ...:hmm:

tycho102 · 10-23-06, 12:44 PM

The main pump is destroyed by the snorkel.

The sonar is destroyed by the radar antenna.

The snokel presents just as large radar-crossection as the entire boat.

Torpedo loading issues, but this one is more of a "bug" with something else (unlike the IXD2's torpedo issues).

Battery won't recharge.

There's others, but that's all I can remember right now.

Ducimus · 10-23-06, 01:02 PM

I hate that buggy boat with a passion. Some of the bugs are fixable by modding, but the radar is kinda pointless in that boat. Snorkel visiblity is a problem with any snorkel i think, and its fixible. It's not just the XXI that has problems with it.

Main pump destroyed is an issue with the zones.cfg. Theres a version out there that works, i dont remember if it was stock or one of the hollywood files.

_Seth_ · 10-23-06, 01:07 PM

Nice replys, mates, but one question. Was Bernard involved with the Dev team over at Ubisoft when they configured the XXI? Or did it have all those problems in real life?

and: Ther radar presents a cross-section the size of the boat?????????????? What the h***? This has to be fixed......

bookworm_020 · 10-23-06, 05:48 PM

There is a fix for the battery and torpedo problem. Look in the SHIII mods forum, select the mods list thread and scroll down, there sould be a mod for xxi battery fix.

The other problems I'm not sure on. You can reduce the Snorkel cross section by making sure you are at snokel depth when you deploy it. you can also trim the boat down a meter or two to reduce the projection of the snorkel, and do it at night, so it can't be seen

Best of luck

Ducimus · 10-23-06, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020

There is a fix for the battery

I totally forgot about that. Ironically i think i did *some* of the orginal work on that, and i dont even use the damn boat. Go figure.

edit: here you go, von helshings XXI battery fix.
http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=47637

If the D/L doesnt work, im pretty sure you can get it at UBRS.

Laffertytig · 10-24-06, 02:11 AM

i would likt to try a patrol with this boat. if someone could post links to fixes for these bugs that, expecially the radar and scrorkell bugs that would be great

i use nygm by the way

Ducimus · 10-24-06, 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laffertytig

i would likt to try a patrol with this boat. if someone could post links to fixes for these bugs that, expecially the radar and scrorkell bugs that would be great

i use nygm by the way

Im pretty sure DTB has included all available fixes. NYGM is pretty thorough.

Tijn · 10-24-06, 04:13 AM

When i try to use the XXI, it just doesn't start. It doesn't matter if i'm in single player or campaign. Both the diesel and the electric engines do nothing.

I'm using SH3 with 1.4b and GW1.1A + SH3 commander 2.6

Anyone else?

Grtz Martijn

VonHelsching · 10-24-06, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tijn

When i try to use the XXI, it just doesn't start. It doesn't matter if i'm in single player or campaign. Both the diesel and the electric engines do nothing.

I'm using SH3 with 1.4b and GW1.1A + SH3 commander 2.6

Anyone else?

Grtz Martijn

IIRC, you can try the 24 four fatigue fix for GW1.1a. It´s in the Grey Wolves sticky at the mods section (1st post). I think the link is inactive, but I´ll make sure it´s reposted. In the mean time try using another fatigue scheme through SH3Cdr. It should work.

In GW all XXI glitches have been taken care of. One still remains...and since I love this boat, for me it´s one of the most annoying SHIII bugs still remaining: The lack of an operational radar warning receiver at the top of the XXI snorkel.

Von

Tijn · 10-24-06, 06:39 AM

Thnx, i will try that. I can't remember if i installed the fatique update from GW. But i do recollect that i noticed it somewhere. Wasn't really sure what it was for. But this explains a lot.

Respenus · 10-24-06, 08:43 AM

Well if you are using the GW 24h mod, you need to install the basic.cfg fix so that things will work.

I have a seperate installation, where I have GW with Kid Mod and I didn't install the basic.cfg fix as there is no fatique.

In campain, everything works fine, but in SP mission, it get a type IIA conning tower

(gotta post the pic sometime) and lot of things are destroyed. In the normal GW, I have no problems!

Ducimus · 10-24-06, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonHelsching

In GW all XXI glitches have been taken care of. One still remains...and since I love this boat, for me it´s one of the most annoying SHIII bugs still remaining: The lack of an operational radar warning receiver at the top of the XXI snorkel.

Von

This also i know to be quite true

I think the XXI is Gib's favorite too. Goes without saying the XXI will be patched up as much as possible. Im kinda curious to see if the last remaning issues were able to be addressed in GWX or not. I dont know if those issues are fixable by any modder, but it's always fun to hope

10-23-06, 12:16 PM	#1
Laffertytig Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 757 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	known bugs with XXI boats? i just tryed a sungle mission in one of these subs and as soon as the mission started i got reports of damage. what other bugs are there and have are there any fixes?

10-23-06, 12:33 PM	#2
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	I havent tried the XXI in single missions, but i have experienced a minor bug: Before i start my patrol in the campaign mode (when i use the XXI), i get a report that the main pump is destroyed. It occurs when the loading screen turns into the game screen. Its at the same moment the sonar gets destroyed on the VIIC.... I dunno whats going on.. IIRC, it happends in the GW and in the NYGM mod. Not a big problem though, since my crew is well trained and has been out a winter night before, but ...:hmm: __________________

10-23-06, 12:44 PM	#3
tycho102 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,100 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The main pump is destroyed by the snorkel. The sonar is destroyed by the radar antenna. The snokel presents just as large radar-crossection as the entire boat. Torpedo loading issues, but this one is more of a "bug" with something else (unlike the IXD2's torpedo issues). Battery won't recharge. There's others, but that's all I can remember right now. __________________ My little Silent Hunter 4 repository

10-23-06, 01:07 PM	#5
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	Nice replys, mates, but one question. Was Bernard involved with the Dev team over at Ubisoft when they configured the XXI? Or did it have all those problems in real life? and: Ther radar presents a cross-section the size of the boat?????????????? What the h***? This has to be fixed...... __________________

10-23-06, 05:48 PM	#6
bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	There is a fix for the battery and torpedo problem. Look in the SHIII mods forum, select the mods list thread and scroll down, there sould be a mod for xxi battery fix. The other problems I'm not sure on. You can reduce the Snorkel cross section by making sure you are at snokel depth when you deploy it. you can also trim the boat down a meter or two to reduce the projection of the snorkel, and do it at night, so it can't be seen Best of luck __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

10-23-06, 01:02 PM	#4
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I hate that buggy boat with a passion. Some of the bugs are fixable by modding, but the radar is kinda pointless in that boat. Snorkel visiblity is a problem with any snorkel i think, and its fixible. It's not just the XXI that has problems with it. Main pump destroyed is an issue with the zones.cfg. Theres a version out there that works, i dont remember if it was stock or one of the hollywood files.

10-24-06, 02:11 AM	#8
Laffertytig Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 757 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	i would likt to try a patrol with this boat. if someone could post links to fixes for these bugs that, expecially the radar and scrorkell bugs that would be great i use nygm by the way

10-24-06, 04:13 AM	#10
Tijn Loader Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nijmegen Posts: 83 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	When i try to use the XXI, it just doesn't start. It doesn't matter if i'm in single player or campaign. Both the diesel and the electric engines do nothing. I'm using SH3 with 1.4b and GW1.1A + SH3 commander 2.6 Anyone else? Grtz Martijn

10-24-06, 06:39 AM	#12
Tijn Loader Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nijmegen Posts: 83 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Thnx, i will try that. I can't remember if i installed the fatique update from GW. But i do recollect that i noticed it somewhere. Wasn't really sure what it was for. But this explains a lot.

10-24-06, 08:43 AM	#13
Respenus Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,169 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well if you are using the GW 24h mod, you need to install the basic.cfg fix so that things will work. I have a seperate installation, where I have GW with Kid Mod and I didn't install the basic.cfg fix as there is no fatique. In campain, everything works fine, but in SP mission, it get a type IIA conning tower (gotta post the pic sometime) and lot of things are destroyed. In the normal GW, I have no problems! __________________