Boliva close to civil war ... please pray

[geetrue]

Please pray for my missionary friend in Boliva ... the unknown war.

Rocky just sent me this email yesterday:

Men of faith,

We could well be entering civil war. 20,000 Cuban regulars backed by Venezuelan advisers are on the ground. Russian support is in the waters of Venezuela. According to the Swiss Embassy there were 40 trucks of Bolivian Army personnel cut off when Bolivian opposition blew a bridge. Bolivian opposition is boasting a 60,000 man militia. The death toll continues to rise as fighting is reported to be going on in the northern department of Pando, Boliva.

God bless,
Rocky

[Oberon]

Yowch...that looks to get real nasty real quick. I'll keep your friend in my thoughts Gee.

[August]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Yeah let's all pray, I'm sure it's gonna solve the crisis in no time

What an incredibly insensitive thing to say.

[Digital_Trucker]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Yeah let's all pray, I'm sure it's gonna solve the crisis in no time

My thoughts and prayers are with your friend, too, geetrue.

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by August

What an incredibly insensitive thing to say.

But typical out of him.

Hey Geetrue, Hope he pulls through man.

-S

[Mush Martin]

Capzap where are you ?

[JoeCorrado]

Originally Posted by August

What an incredibly insensitive thing to say.

All we "can" do is pray. It's not like the United States Military is in any position to intervene even in our own back yard. We can't assist our brave soldiers in Afghanistan in their hour of need- how are we going to do anything for Bolivia?

Pray for a change in Washington- pray for Obama to be elected president.

[Skybird]

"Missionary friend" ?

Is he trying to help by treating ill and wounded people in a hospital or building infrastructure, informing on agriculture or teaching children in schools how to write and read an doing math - or is he trying to spread his religion, founding a church and preaching?

In case of the first I hope he makes it in one piece, no matter his beliefs. In case of the latter: I simply don't care .

I will not be liked for being blunt and writing that. On the other hand - maybe I also do not like everything I need to read.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by JoeCorrado

Pray for a change in Washington- pray for Obama to be elected president.

Equally insensitive. Do we have to bring our personal politics into this?

[JoeCorrado]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Equally insensitive. Do we have to bring our personal politics into this?

The leader of the free world... is a politician.

Hate to break it to you but the next president will decide the direction of our country and perhaps that of Bolivia as well-

What we have today in Washington is the reason that these things like Bolivia are happening in our own back yard so to speak while "our attention" is focused half way around the world and on countries like Georgia instead of countries like Bolivia.

It is a matter of policy and the policy has been wrong headed and our countries focus and attention has been misplaced.

We could well be entering civil war. 20,000 Cuban regulars backed by Venezuelan advisers are on the ground. Russian support is in the waters of Venezuela. According to the Swiss Embassy there were 40 trucks of Bolivian Army personnel cut off when Bolivian opposition blew a bridge. Bolivian opposition is boasting a 60,000 man militia. The death toll continues to rise as fighting is reported to be going on in the northern department of Pando, Boliva.

The "civil war" that you speak of is of a "political nature" so please- do not accuse me of bringing my politics into the debate when the thread is clearly one of politics, and of praying. I urge both... pray for a change and MY preferred change starts in Washington with our own commander in chief.

[Sailor Steve]

Joe, everything you say may be true, but the guy asked us to pray for his friend. And that's all his asked for.

I ceased to be a praying man years ago, but I do sincerely hope it turns out alright for him. And that's all I'll say on this thread.

[Frame57]

Any opportunity to attack someones religion huh guys? Why bother to post such snide remarks when the man simply asked for prayer for his friends. You should be ashamed of yourselves!

[JoeCorrado]

Originally Posted by Frame57

Any opportunity to attack someones religion huh guys? Why bother to post such snide remarks when the man simply asked for prayer for his friends. You should be ashamed of yourselves!

And who's religion was being attacked? You create McCain's campaign ads or is it simply coincidental that you make things up, throw the "stuff" against the wall and "pray" something sticks??

I suggest that you see the original post of the thread. He spent 6 words asking for prayers for his friend and then included a full paragraph from HIS FRIEND who went on at comparative length discussing the reason such prayer is necessarry. That description of events on the ground in Bolivia is a legitimate part of this thread.s initial post.

If he did not want comments about the description regarding the events in Bolivia that were the motivation in his request for prayers... to somehow "change" the facts on the ground there... then he should have left those comments out of the original post.

I responded to that portion of the original post and stand by my comments. I also stand by the fact that my comments were relative and proper tp the original post. You may disagree but please spare me your dubious indignation that I have been somehow improper.

All he asked for was a little prayer, eh? I suppose you missed this part then.

Rocky just sent me this email yesterday:

Men of faith,

We could well be entering civil war. 20,000 Cuban regulars backed by Venezuelan advisers are on the ground. Russian support is in the waters of Venezuela. According to the Swiss Embassy there were 40 trucks of Bolivian Army personnel cut off when Bolivian opposition blew a bridge. Bolivian opposition is boasting a 60,000 man militia. The death toll continues to rise as fighting is reported to be going on in the northern department of Pando, Boliva.

You ask that I NOT respond to the comments posted DIRECTLY from the man we are supposed to pray for as he describes the reasons that such prayers are needed? That is a little selective, don't you think?

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I ceased to be a praying man years ago, but I do sincerely hope it turns out alright for him. And that's all I'll say on this thread.

I'll pray. I'll keep Rocky in mind and hope that he stays safe. But I will also work for change to prevent these situations from spreading and engulfing more than just Rocky or just Bolivia. I'm kind of a pragmatic sort of guy.
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To the original thread starter- thanks for bringing this issue to the forefront. It deserves more attention on the nightly news because it has been very quiet concerning events in Bolivia these days.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Frame57

Any opportunity to attack someones religion huh guys? Why bother to post such snide remarks when the man simply asked for prayer for his friends. You should be ashamed of yourselves!

Keep thy religion for thyself. Don't expect respect if you make your holy idea a fairground attraction with which you go peddling.

My question was honest and straight. If the guy is down there to help in real deed and action like I described, fine, no complaint. If he is about arrogantly thinikng it is up to him to missionize foreign people into his beliefs (and i met such kind of people in North Africa for sure), then it would be better for all if he never went down there.

So what kind of guy is he? My original question stands.

[Frame57]

I think you both just like to hear yourself speak. Banter somewhere else!