Release date Q3 2007, what does that imply ?

Drebbel · 12-17-05, 04:25 PM

Release date Q3 2007, what does that mean ?

In case SHIV would use same engine and is "just" a redone AI, ports, models and units. Then I would think 2 year dev-time is too long, right ?

So could this mean SHIV will not use the SHIII engine but have a brand new engine ?

What is your educated guess or opinion ?

Gizzmoe · 12-17-05, 04:46 PM

If Q3 2007 is the fiscal year it could be released between April and June 07. LetÂ´s say they start the project mid January/early February 06, then itÂ´s not really that much time they have to fix the dozens of bugs, add features, rework the AI and improve the graphics engine.

Takeda Shingen · 12-17-05, 06:00 PM

The release date is a very early estimate and will undoubtedly change between now and completion. Therefore, I would say that the date implies nothing other than giving the delevopment team ample time to work before the community starts crying 'where's the game?!'.

Drebbel · 12-17-05, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

The release date is a very early estimate and will undoubtedly change between now and completion. Therefore, I would say that the date implies nothing other than giving the delevopment team ample time to work before the community starts crying 'where's the game?!'.

Hmm, I would think the release dat is a good indication of the earliest possible dat. I think it is unlikely it will be an earlier date, more likely (as history has learned us) that is will be a later date. A later dat would give them even more time to develop a new engine.

But I must also admit that some time ago a formet dev-team memner told me that the engine is already being used for another game (don't tecall th title) and that it would be good enought for a couple of games more.

benetofski · 12-17-05, 11:24 PM

Gizzmoe wrote:

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If Q3 2007 is the fiscal year it could be released between April and June 07

This is probably fairly realistic for the PC release - given the new SH4 project team's potential agenda. However, dont be surprised to see it (or a version of it) appear on other platforms first!

McBeck · 12-19-05, 10:10 AM

I see that release date and raise it 6 months... :hmm:
But thats for a redone/new engine!

wetwarev7 · 12-19-05, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Drebbel

Release date Q3 2007, what does that mean ?

What is your educated guess or opinion ?

It means much wailing and gnashing of teeth.....

2007? How am I supposed to wait that long? Anyone got a extra time machine I can borrow?

Marhkimov · 12-19-05, 04:28 PM

I would dedicate more time to SH3, because waiting impatiently is not fun...

On the otherhand, at least SH3 is fun... I hope.

rik007 · 12-21-05, 01:08 AM

Hopefully it means that SH-IV is serious for UBI. I do not hope that it means that everything will be done from scratch: research, graphics, engine etc, because then it means no wolfpacks, messy convoys, long wish-lists, halfway development and a release 'as such'.

Safe-Keeper · 12-23-05, 07:38 PM

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In case SHIV would use same engine and is "just" a redone AI, ports, models and units. Then I would think 2 year dev-time is too long, right ?

You're one of them...

Come on, GTA2 used a different engine than GTA, but was not very innovative.

On the other hand, X-Wing Alliance, believe it or not, uses the same engine as the ancient Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe (which in turn has it from an even earlier sim!). OK, so the engine has evolved, but still - do XWA and SWTL have anything in common at all?

Used-again engine does not equal an identical experience. And as for the publishers "giving the developers too much time: You can't give a game long enough time to develop their title. In this day and age of rushed, unpatched games, be glad they're giving the developers all the time they need, not worried.

Furthermore, it means us designers and modders can pretty much jump into the game and be familiar with it.

And why make a new engine if the old one works? Hm?

That'd be all.

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However, dont be surprised to see it (or a version of it) appear on other platforms first!

Controlling all of SH with the few keys of a console controller? Gawd, you're good at thinking up nightmare scenarios, budd'

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2019 · 03-02-06, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Drebbel

Release date Q3 2007, what does that mean ?

In case SHIV would use same engine and is "just" a redone AI, ports, models and units. Then I would think 2 year dev-time is too long, right ?

So could this mean SHIV will not use the SHIII engine but have a brand new engine ?

What is your educated guess or opinion ?

Same engine, same AI only then with some minor exhance.
New assests, which could be from the pacific theatre.

They allready have many dd's and carriers modeled, with some modifications to it they will look almost authentic as from the pacific.

After sh3 i'm certainly not interested in another sh title.
I'm rather having bigger hopes for our independent sub sim developers.

simsurfer · 03-08-06, 10:55 PM

Hey, all this Q2 this and Q4 that and 2007 stuff, look on the bright side, by the time the game comes out most of us will need to drop another $1500.00 on a game that will cost $50-60.00 because our current CPU's and vid cards wont be able to keep up with the graphics.

WooHoo, another PC build

Brentano · 03-09-06, 12:57 AM

I suspect that SH4 will use a new engine.

Immacolata · 03-09-06, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Brentano

I suspect that SH4 will use a new engine.

I hope you are wrong.

JU_88 · 03-28-06, 06:15 AM

Im betting on the same engine with some graphical tweaks and hope fully alot of AI fixes.

I think they will try and do something clever for SH4, maybe it will have multiple sides playable or mutiple unit types (sub/ surface/ air like DW), or maybe DC built in or.... or something

god knows but if it was just a PTO sub sim with Yank subs all made on SH3s engine, its unlikey it would take the best part of 2 years to deliver, I think they have something bigger and more ambitious planned than just another subsim.

12-17-05, 04:25 PM	#1
Drebbel Dutch Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Almost at periscope death ! Posts: 1,665 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Release date Q3 2007, what does that imply ? Release date Q3 2007, what does that mean ? In case SHIV would use same engine and is "just" a redone AI, ports, models and units. Then I would think 2 year dev-time is too long, right ? So could this mean SHIV will not use the SHIII engine but have a brand new engine ? What is your educated guess or opinion ?

12-19-05, 10:10 AM	#6
McBeck Admiral Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,027 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	I see that release date and raise it 6 months... :hmm: But thats for a redone/new engine! __________________ "I like subcommanders...they dont have time for bull**!" Proud member of the Subsim army of zombies Becks website

12-19-05, 04:28 PM	#8
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I would dedicate more time to SH3, because waiting impatiently is not fun... On the otherhand, at least SH3 is fun... I hope. __________________ It takes two to tango

03-08-06, 10:55 PM	#12
simsurfer Watch Officer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 342 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Hey, all this Q2 this and Q4 that and 2007 stuff, look on the bright side, by the time the game comes out most of us will need to drop another $1500.00 on a game that will cost $50-60.00 because our current CPU's and vid cards wont be able to keep up with the graphics. WooHoo, another PC build __________________

12-17-05, 04:46 PM	#2
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	If Q3 2007 is the fiscal year it could be released between April and June 07. LetÂ´s say they start the project mid January/early February 06, then itÂ´s not really that much time they have to fix the dozens of bugs, add features, rework the AI and improve the graphics engine.

12-17-05, 06:00 PM	#3
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	The release date is a very early estimate and will undoubtedly change between now and completion. Therefore, I would say that the date implies nothing other than giving the delevopment team ample time to work before the community starts crying 'where's the game?!'.

12-21-05, 01:08 AM	#9
rik007 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 785 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 0	Hopefully it means that SH-IV is serious for UBI. I do not hope that it means that everything will be done from scratch: research, graphics, engine etc, because then it means no wolfpacks, messy convoys, long wish-lists, halfway development and a release 'as such'.

03-09-06, 12:57 AM	#13
Brentano Seaman Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NNW Posts: 42 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I suspect that SH4 will use a new engine.

03-28-06, 06:15 AM	#15
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Im betting on the same engine with some graphical tweaks and hope fully alot of AI fixes. I think they will try and do something clever for SH4, maybe it will have multiple sides playable or mutiple unit types (sub/ surface/ air like DW), or maybe DC built in or.... or something god knows but if it was just a PTO sub sim with Yank subs all made on SH3s engine, its unlikey it would take the best part of 2 years to deliver, I think they have something bigger and more ambitious planned than just another subsim.