My respect for people's right are being tested

[mapuc]

In these days there is a legal process in Norway, it is not a legal process whatsoever - This is a trial where Anders Breivik has sued the Norwegian state - to have broken several conventions. Breivik alleges that the Norwegian state does not take into account his civic rights.

His rights !! did He have any thought of his victim's rights when he shot them in cold blood.

I grew up with democracy and taught me to respect democracy and to see to others also enjoy the democratic rights even if they have done terrible things-It happens, however, that this respect sometimes is put to the test

Markus

[Reece]

What is missing nowadays is justice!!

[Oberon]

His appeal will likely get turned down, the annoying thing is that the media were allowed in to film the event, thus giving him air time which is the oxygen on which his type thrives. Should have been a closed hearing really, murder appeals should be. Once a murderer is in prison that should be the last we hear of them until the news of their death is announced. They should be forgotten, because every moment that they are remembered is more than they deserve.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Reece

What is missing nowadays is justice!!

The biggest question is what is justice?

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Oberon

His appeal will likely get turned down, the annoying thing is that the media were allowed in to film the event, thus giving him air time which is the oxygen on which his type thrives. Should have been a closed hearing really, murder appeals should be. Once a murderer is in prison that should be the last we hear of them until the news of their death is announced. They should be forgotten, because every moment that they are remembered is more than they deserve.

I don't know who made the appeal public or on which request.

Heard earlier today, that Breivik made a "Hitler thing" and the judge said-do not do this again.

Yesterday The news was interviewing some survivors-One of them could very well understand him and said he should have same democratically rights as other-while the other one said that the Norwegian government should put him in a dark room as in the middle age and throw away the key

Even among the survivors there is different opinions

Markus

[Oberon]

I have to admit the Norwegian maximum security cell is rather luxurious, comparing it to the American equivalent. I think the Yanks have a good idea with their Supermax prisons, very utiliterian, minimum exposure to the outside and total solitary confinement.

[Gargamel]

Let's not hold us up as the model example of corrections systems. Just look at our incarceration rate per capita. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...#United_States and http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/h...l/nn2page1.stm). Something should be said for good rehabilitation, and not just punishment.



The man is allowed to have his grievance, the court will hear it and promptly dismiss it. "But what about your victims" was my first thought too, but if we start to ignore the laws based on personal opinions, then we are no better than him.

[Skybird]

You cannot avoid to get challenged in life. But you can refuse to waver. So walk on, nothing to see here, nothing important happened...

[fumo30]

Originally Posted by mapuc

this respect sometimes is put to the test

Markus

Did you pass or fail the test?

[STEED]

Court cases=Money

Not in the media..
Longer its dragged out the better for some persons rubbing their hands with glee.

In the Media..
This vile person is having a good time making the rest of us feel sick and angry.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by STEED

This vile person is having a good time making the rest of us feel sick and angry.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Gargamel

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In the US, prisons are privately owned companies or so i read. is this really true?

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Catfish

In the US, prisons are privately owned companies or so i read. is this really true?

Some are.

As of 2010 about 15% of the inmates under the jurisdiction of the Federal Bureau of Prisons are in facilities operated by third parties. Most of them are in facilities operated by private companies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Prisons

Most though are government run via the FBP.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Hmmm....

Mind you his wedding.

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Breivk has his rights and should be allowed excercise. However I have to admit that I wouldn't mind if key got lost... but that is good reason why I don't have and should never have any say on this kind of issues...

Originally Posted by Oberon

I have to admit the Norwegian maximum security cell is rather luxurious, comparing it to the American equivalent. I think the Yanks have a good idea with their Supermax prisons, very utiliterian, minimum exposure to the outside and total solitary confinement.

That is good system for prisoners who are in "storage" rather than in "rehabiliiation".

Originally Posted by Oberon

Some are.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Prisons

Most though are government run via the FBP.

What about State prisons and county(?) jails?

EDIT: Just to add. Here in Finland court proceedings are public unless there is good reason for closed doors. This as far I understand it is determined by presiding judge(s).