Hummm...NOT!

[Kessner]

I have bought this game to try it out. I was excited with great promise that this would be cool and people are nick picking at the game. I got into to my first action on the high sea and discovered something...

If you take the all mesh models, and water, and set it up with all the subs simular to SH3 useing these add on's and have it set so it could be modded by some group like maybe GWX. This game MIGHT actully go some place..

But as it stand...Hummm....NOT!!

[StarTrekMike]

Sounds like you need to add some mods, I mean, after playing SHIII, well, you should know that mods are almost always needed.

SH5 is a very good addition to the franchise, you just need to be willing to work a bit for it.

[raymond6751]

The mods make it a new game and worth while. I highly recommend the new UI mod by TDW as a beginning.

Sub gamers, like submariners, need patience. Don't give up the ship.

[Kessner]

Using and interacting was no problem. It is the campaing and combat. Every ship seems to have the ability to eveade torpeados. I fallow through and fire, suddenly have I send a couple torpedos. the Ship turns and is in high speed going away. When I reach a convoy. I suddenly have 5 to 6 ft swells, the stupid depth gage dose not move in meters, only jumps in 10 meters, so my periscope is mainly submerged all the time. Oh yeah when you hit dive to dive deeper it appears to be too confuseing for the game to understand that deeper is not 40 meters and holding, Deeper means 40 plus. Or the convoy is always too far to reach. In the mean time I get these redundant orders to press the attack and be agressive, NOT even sure with who because there is more NO ONE than any one. I wasted all my torps and requested for a resupply which was denied. So I broke orders and returned to port for the resupply. Apperntly the BdU dosn't understand in english or German that "EMPTY" meanse empty so unless harsh words can sink ships, I have to choice but to resupply. They should have stayed with the grid system Instead of this campaing marker. It was less confussing for the game mainly, muchless the player. The "deadline" is 100% pointless. Must have targets first so you can engage with none clown equipment that actully works. You think the torpedo's are being sent out with light beacons. Not even in the default SH3. The combat is really the major problem.

[Kessner]

Oh yeah doing a test dive like I do with every with every maiden voyeg sub I get I do a pratice alarm drill so I understand the fastest way to dive. I tend to also test the boat in depth to know how far it gose. I made it up to 200 meters and surfaced. At 100 meters on the way to the serface, the cheif for some reason fines it importaint to tell me the boat was badly damaged and the haul was at 70%. Couldn't tell me that when it was happening, tells me when I almost killed us all like some bad joke. So now I am stuck with a damaged boat that should not have been. Why did I dive to 200 meters, well from my understanding the type 7 can get up to 200 meters, and you are in a type 7. Apperntly not a well built one. Kreigsmarine must be taking short cuts to save money.

I am gonna try to finish the campaing as is. But if I do not make the quota, which the way things are going I most likly won't, too bad. Belive me, I am giving my best shake on this game. Because I think it has possabilities. But the wrong people programmed it...

[V13dweller]

Every new player to SH5 posts this in the Forum, every cranky player has not inquired into solving these problems with mods, or thinks they are too hard to install.
All you have to do is ask, and we can guide you step by step on what to do, ask me, and I will personally guide you step by step.
This game has a VERY steep learning curve.

[Schütze]

Originally Posted by Kessner

Using and interacting was no problem. It is the campaing and combat. They should have stayed with the grid system. Every ship seems to have the ability to eveade torpeados.

You could always use the torpedo not leaving any wake. Just sayin.

I fallow through and fire, suddenly have I send a couple. the Ship turns and is in high speed going away. When I reach a convoy. I suddenly have 5 to 6 ft swells, the stupid depth gage dose not move in meters, only jumps in 10 meters, so my periscope is mainly submerged all the time. Oh yeah when you hit dive to dive deeper it appears to be too confuseing for the game to understand that deeper is not 40 meters and holding, Deeper means 40 plus. Or the convoy is always too far to reach. In the mean time I get these redundant orders to press the attack and be agressive, NOT even sure with who because there is more NO ONE than any one. I wasted all my torps and requested for a resupply which was denied. So I broke orders and returned to port for the resupply. It was less confussing for the game muchless the player. The "deadline" is 100% pointless. Must have targets first so you can engage with none clown equipment that actully works. You think the torpedo's are being sent out with light beacons. Not even in the default SH3. The combat is really the major problem.

Guess you are chrashdiving then. Well it is a stock SH-feature that has stayed with the game since (to my knowledge) SH3 atleast.

[BigWalleye]

Welcome aboard. Kessner!

There are several good mod lists that have been posted. Sober's is very good, and has all the current links for downloading, so you never have to chase a dead link.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=3492
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=192374

Most of these lists run 60-80 mods deep. There's a reason for that! The game needs that much work. But a lot of work has been done by the modding community. Many people find the modded game worthwhile. YMMV.

[BigWalleye]

Originally Posted by Kessner

Oh yeah doing a test dive like I do with every with every maiden voyeg sub I get I do a pratice alarm drill so I understand the fastest way to dive. I tend to also test the boat in depth to know how far it gose. I made it up to 200 meters and surfaced. At 100 meters the cheif for some reason fines it importaint to tell me the boat was badly damaged and the haul was at 70%. Couldn't tell me that when it was happening, tells me when I almost killed us all like some bad joke.

Did you check the depth under your keel before you dived? Sounds like you may have hit bottom at 100m. Crew may look more like humans in this game, but they're still just bots.

[Kessner]

Originally Posted by BigWalleye

Did you check the depth under your keel before you dived? Sounds like you may have hit bottom at 100m. Crew may look more like humans in this game, but they're still just bots.

500 meters plus!! I dropped were I always drop for a hard test. The straight by Kristiansand. It has always made a fine spot when leaving from Kiel.

[Kessner]

Originally Posted by Schütze

You could always use the torpedo not leaving any wake. Just sayin.

Guess you are chrashdiving then. Well it is a stock SH-feature that has stayed with the game since (to my knowledge) SH3 atleast.

Nope. NOt at crash dive. As for SH3 you can dive till you empload...lol. Just with the GWX mod when you go to maintain current depth, the respons is way better. The default game just keeps on diving.

[Kessner]

Originally Posted by V13dweller

Every new player to SH5 posts this in the Forum, every cranky player has not inquired into solving these problems with mods, or thinks they are too hard to install.
All you have to do is ask, and we can guide you step by step on what to do, ask me, and I will personally guide you step by step.
This game has a VERY steep learning curve.

How about EXTREEMLY steep. Because I did not play for 20 minutes and come up with all this. I had been at it for 3 hours and broke orders to returning to port because I was denied resuppling after wasting my torpedo complament on ships that perfactly eveade them in the middle of the night and that is with officer assit instead of manule....

[V13dweller]

It took me about 6 days of total play time to get my head around everything, just saying.
And even then, I still did not know most of the game.
Just ask, and the community will help, getting angry will not solve anything.
The community is hear for a good reason.

If you are having trouble using the Torpedo system, I suggest using the Non manual targeting, then if you are not, use the 1.2.3 system, line them up with your enemies, Eg. Get your 1 over the enemies 1, then your most likely going to secure the hit, unless he changes speed or direction.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Kessner

Because I did not play for 20 minutes and come up with all this.

I can understand your anger, but please note that no one who has posted so far has been critical of you. They are all trying to help. A great many people play SH5 and enjoy it, and they want you to have the same experience.

[Kessner]

ALL STOP!! I didn't see this before... lol I came across the game data folder. A folder in which I could not find.

Now I created a default A.S.C. mod for SH3 back in 2010 which made it possable to make it and finish the war in 1945. It was NO cheat mod, gave the player (me) and the AI (them) a 50/50 chance, which turned up into a very intressting campaing. This includes being at the bottom of 120 meters off a contental shelf repairing my type 9 as it was taking on water while destroyers were looking for me above.

I just sampled some of my Sh3 settings and see what happends. So far it looks like it may have took. This boat sunk faster now its up enough to pass it. I was happy with some of the GWX setting too, maybe I mix em up a bit... Hope this experament works...