Crew On Deck Submerged

xerxes313 · 01-14-13, 11:41 PM

Hello everyone!

I just downloading Living breathing ocean and am running it with TMO and it seems my crew will not leave the watch stations when I submerge. Is there any way to correct this or will I have to forego my use of said mod.

On a different note...I am new posting here but I have been lurking since playing Silent Hunter 3 around a year ago. It was just the 3rd sub game I had ever played following Subcommand and Silent Service on the NES in my youth(1st grade).

A bit sad that I have missed out on such a great community all these years but I suppose better late than never no?

ETR3(SS) · 01-15-13, 12:02 AM

Try surfacing, saving the game and reloading it. It's a pretty common bug thats been around since SH3 if I remember correctly. And welcome to Subsim!

Red October1984 · 01-15-13, 07:41 AM

Yes. The bug has been around a while. If your a Subsimming Vet like me, you just learn to live with it.

Arlo · 01-15-13, 08:13 AM

Apparently they are living and breathing ocean. (I've had that happen in the past, as well, I reloaded the game and it stopped)

Armistead · 01-15-13, 01:51 PM

I wouldn't run LBO with TMO. TMO has it's own env. mod that is tweaked with sensors.

captgeo · 01-16-13, 09:30 AM

like most have stated its a pretty common bug, take the advice to dive, resurface and then save. Make sure there are NO contacts around you when saving games,and make sure you are on surface to save.

Welcome to subsim mate.

01-16-13, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

Try surfacing, saving the game and reloading it. It's a pretty common bug thats been around since SH3 if I remember correctly. And welcome to Subsim!

yep, also you get the CO2 thing where surfacing wont restore CO2 levels and the fix is the same

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Originally Posted by Armistead

I wouldn't run LBO with TMO. TMO has it's own env. mod that is tweaked with sensors.

LBO is NOT for the v1.5 game and is for a much older version when the game was first released, it might actually work but its going to cause all sorts of issues for you because its not compatable with the updated game.

TorpX · 01-16-13, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by captgeo

like most have stated its a pretty common bug ....

Hmmm...I've never had either of those things happen.

fireftr18 · 01-17-13, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TorpX

Hmmm...I've never had either of those things happen.

I think I had the crew bug. I have had the co2 bug. Most say it's caused by alt-tabbing out.

BigWalleye · 01-17-13, 08:03 AM

My experience has been that ALT-TABing brings on the CO2 problem, sometimes with as little as one ALT-TAB. The mission in progress can be recovered by saving the game, exiting the program, and restarting. When the mission resumes, the CO2 bug is gone. But I believe there is a simple way to avoid this problem: Don't ALT-TAB from an active game. Pause the game by going to the Options menu. Then ALT-TAB out. I haven't noticed any problems when I use that routine. Has anyone else had a different experience?

Moonlight · 01-17-13, 06:33 PM

I concur with BigWalleye, I've never had a problem using the same method.

TorpX · 01-17-13, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BigWalleye

Don't ALT-TAB from an active game. Pause the game by going to the Options menu. Then ALT-TAB out. I haven't noticed any problems when I use that routine. Has anyone else had a different experience?

Maybe this is why I've never had it. If I must ALT-TAB out (which is seldom), I pause first.

01-18-13, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BigWalleye

My experience has been that ALT-TABing brings on the CO2 problem, sometimes with as little as one ALT-TAB. The mission in progress can be recovered by saving the game, exiting the program, and restarting. When the mission resumes, the CO2 bug is gone. But I believe there is a simple way to avoid this problem: Don't ALT-TAB from an active game. Pause the game by going to the Options menu. Then ALT-TAB out. I haven't noticed any problems when I use that routine. Has anyone else had a different experience?

i never understood why people used the alt-tab thing, i always just use the "esc" key myself

ColonelSandersLite · 01-18-13, 05:38 PM

I rarely alt+tab, but run into this problem frequently. That doesn't mean that there's not some background process causing it through, such as a messenger application or a firewall popup or whatever...

What I do know though, is that as the length of time you play in one sitting without saving/reloading increases, so does the probability of this happening.

For my money, speaking as a software engineer, the co2 bug and crew on deck underwater bug are actually the same bug. I think what's happening is that the surfaced/submerged status of the boat is not getting updated correctly. I can't say anything regarding where the break is exactly, or what effect it may have on being spotted and or what effects it may have on the sensors on your boat.

Stompinstu · 01-18-13, 08:00 PM

You know how in SH3 you could run half submerged to get your sonar to work but still have your diesels to run? (i forget the depth)

well, is that still possible in SH4? I tried doing the same thing, but maybe my depths are off. anyone know at what depth the batteries kick in?

01-14-13, 11:41 PM	#1
xerxes313 Nub Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 4 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	Crew On Deck Submerged Hello everyone! I just downloading Living breathing ocean and am running it with TMO and it seems my crew will not leave the watch stations when I submerge. Is there any way to correct this or will I have to forego my use of said mod. On a different note...I am new posting here but I have been lurking since playing Silent Hunter 3 around a year ago. It was just the 3rd sub game I had ever played following Subcommand and Silent Service on the NES in my youth(1st grade). A bit sad that I have missed out on such a great community all these years but I suppose better late than never no?

01-15-13, 12:02 AM	#2
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Try surfacing, saving the game and reloading it. It's a pretty common bug thats been around since SH3 if I remember correctly. And welcome to Subsim! __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

01-15-13, 07:41 AM	#3
Red October1984 Airplane Nerd Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 6,243 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	Yes. The bug has been around a while. If your a Subsimming Vet like me, you just learn to live with it. __________________

01-15-13, 08:13 AM	#4
Arlo The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 214 Uploads: 0	Apparently they are living and breathing ocean. (I've had that happen in the past, as well, I reloaded the game and it stopped) __________________ -Arlo

01-15-13, 01:51 PM	#5
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I wouldn't run LBO with TMO. TMO has it's own env. mod that is tweaked with sensors. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

01-16-13, 09:30 AM	#6
captgeo Samurai Navy Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Ontario,Canada Posts: 550 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	like most have stated its a pretty common bug, take the advice to dive, resurface and then save. Make sure there are NO contacts around you when saving games,and make sure you are on surface to save. Welcome to subsim mate. __________________

01-17-13, 08:03 AM	#10
BigWalleye Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: On the Eye-lond, mon! Posts: 1,987 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	My experience has been that ALT-TABing brings on the CO2 problem, sometimes with as little as one ALT-TAB. The mission in progress can be recovered by saving the game, exiting the program, and restarting. When the mission resumes, the CO2 bug is gone. But I believe there is a simple way to avoid this problem: Don't ALT-TAB from an active game. Pause the game by going to the Options menu. Then ALT-TAB out. I haven't noticed any problems when I use that routine. Has anyone else had a different experience?

01-17-13, 06:33 PM	#11
Moonlight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fookhall Copse Posts: 2,519 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	I concur with BigWalleye, I've never had a problem using the same method.

01-18-13, 05:38 PM	#14
ColonelSandersLite Captain Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 481 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 3	I rarely alt+tab, but run into this problem frequently. That doesn't mean that there's not some background process causing it through, such as a messenger application or a firewall popup or whatever... What I do know though, is that as the length of time you play in one sitting without saving/reloading increases, so does the probability of this happening. For my money, speaking as a software engineer, the co2 bug and crew on deck underwater bug are actually the same bug. I think what's happening is that the surfaced/submerged status of the boat is not getting updated correctly. I can't say anything regarding where the break is exactly, or what effect it may have on being spotted and or what effects it may have on the sensors on your boat. __________________ My SH4 LP

01-18-13, 08:00 PM	#15
Stompinstu Bilge Rat Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: California Posts: 1 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	You know how in SH3 you could run half submerged to get your sonar to work but still have your diesels to run? (i forget the depth) well, is that still possible in SH4? I tried doing the same thing, but maybe my depths are off. anyone know at what depth the batteries kick in?