Deck gun or Torpedo

soopaman2 · 10-02-11, 03:47 PM

I know traditionally it was more effective for U-boats to engage with the deckgun especially on single unarmed targets. I tend to play it historically, using my deckgun as much as possible, and saving my fish for warships and striking multiple convoy targets quick fast and in a hurry. I love my deckgun, like a marine loves his rifle.

So I ask you, my fellow Kapitänleutnants, What is your favored method of sending Allied tonnage to davy jones' locker?

JazzJR · 10-02-11, 03:54 PM

Well i play with GWX and in 1941 almoste every small trawler has a deckgun. But i still use my Deckgun for small targets without escort. But i try to keep enough distance to it so it doesn't hit me.

andwii · 10-02-11, 05:25 PM

ya us GWXers cant just surface and destroy lol, stupid enemy deck guns, I almost was completly sunk because of one deck gun shot at about 3 KM. Lucky pain in the stern tube.

Fish In The Water · 10-02-11, 06:28 PM

On occasion I still like to run and gun...

When the mood strikes me, I'll pop up directly behind a juicy merchant and target her guns before she knows what hit her. It's a bit of a gamble, but then playing it safe all the time isn't much fun.

Brag · 10-02-11, 07:18 PM

If the target is unarmed, the deck gun works fine. Otherwise, let the torpedo do the talking.

1480 · 10-02-11, 07:56 PM

Not much fun when a merchie starts popping caps at ya from 2000 meters....learned that that hard way the 1st time I booted up GWX

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Seriously, depends on the tactical situation. I tend to use the gun when I can at night, much prettier when they blow up.....

Kapt Z · 10-02-11, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brag

If the target is unarmed, the deck gun works fine. Otherwise, let the torpedo do the talking.

Sailor Steve · 10-02-11, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soopaman2

I know traditionally it was more effective for U-boats to engage with the deckgun especially on single unarmed targets. I tend to play it historically, using my deckgun as much as possible, and saving my fish for warships and striking multiple convoy targets quick fast and in a hurry. I love my deckgun, like a marine loves his rifle.

Really? Have a look through these lists and see how many ships were sunk by deck guns. I think you'll find that "playing it historically" means using the deck gun as little as possible.
http://uboat.net/allies/merchants/listing.php

Hinrich Schwab · 10-02-11, 09:59 PM

Even with small unarmed targets, I use the deck gun as a last resort. Odds are the weather will not cooperate with the desire to use the deck gun and in most instances, you have to man the gun yourself to prevent wasting time and shots. I usually reserve the gun for anything smaller than a Coastal Merchant.

papa_smurf · 10-03-11, 03:57 AM

Wait till Merchants are armed, then come back and tell us how it went using your deckgun

JazzJR · 10-03-11, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Really? Have a look through these lists and see how many ships were sunk by deck guns. I think you'll find that "playing it historically" means using the deck gun as little as possible.
http://uboat.net/allies/merchants/listing.php

Reinhard Hardegen used the deck gun very often.

And he survived the war and is still living. You could ask him.

VONHARRIS · 10-03-11, 04:42 AM

I use the deck gun (10,5 cm on a IX) at small UNARMED and UNESCORTED targets and from a safe distance - the closest I get is 1000m.
I keep a parallel course to the enemy ship and shell it.
I like to think that coming very close to the target , makes my crew a target for small arms fire.

I have changed the number of rounds my IX carries:
130 10,5 cm rounds
None 3,7 cm rounds - the early war heavy flak is useless.
1000 2 cm rounds.

soopaman2 · 10-03-11, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Really? Have a look through these lists and see how many ships were sunk by deck guns. I think you'll find that "playing it historically" means using the deck gun as little as possible.
http://uboat.net/allies/merchants/listing.php

Point taken. Maybe I should change playing it historically to playing it reliably

Osmium Steele · 10-03-11, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JazzJR

Reinhard Hardegen used the deck gun very often.

And he survived the war and is still living. You could ask him.

No need. His story is all over various media.

The vast majority of his tonnage was unarmed merchants off the N. American coast. The deck gun was the obvious choice in those situations.

He was transferred to a school command before the U.S. routinely armed their merchants.

desirableroasted · 10-03-11, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JazzJR

Reinhard Hardegen used the deck gun very often.

And he survived the war and is still living. You could ask him.

Yeah, well, is he playing GWX?

10-02-11, 03:47 PM	#1
soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	Deck gun or Torpedo I know traditionally it was more effective for U-boats to engage with the deckgun especially on single unarmed targets. I tend to play it historically, using my deckgun as much as possible, and saving my fish for warships and striking multiple convoy targets quick fast and in a hurry. I love my deckgun, like a marine loves his rifle. So I ask you, my fellow Kapitänleutnants, What is your favored method of sending Allied tonnage to davy jones' locker? __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

10-02-11, 03:54 PM	#2
JazzJR Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Germany - Berlin Posts: 263 Downloads: 98 Uploads: 0	Well i play with GWX and in 1941 almoste every small trawler has a deckgun. But i still use my Deckgun for small targets without escort. But i try to keep enough distance to it so it doesn't hit me. __________________

10-02-11, 06:28 PM	#4
Fish In The Water Prince of the Sea SUBSIM Welcome Committee Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Watching over U-253 Posts: 3,527 Downloads: 98 Uploads: 2	On occasion I still like to run and gun... When the mood strikes me, I'll pop up directly behind a juicy merchant and target her guns before she knows what hit her. It's a bit of a gamble, but then playing it safe all the time isn't much fun. __________________ "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people are so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell.

10-02-11, 07:18 PM	#5
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	If the target is unarmed, the deck gun works fine. Otherwise, let the torpedo do the talking. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

10-02-11, 07:56 PM	#6
1480 Lead Slinger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chitcago, Illinoise Posts: 1,442 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 0	Not much fun when a merchie starts popping caps at ya from 2000 meters....learned that that hard way the 1st time I booted up GWX . Seriously, depends on the tactical situation. I tend to use the gun when I can at night, much prettier when they blow up..... __________________

10-02-11, 05:25 PM	#3
andwii Frogman Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Bridge of U-123 Posts: 300 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	ya us GWXers cant just surface and destroy lol, stupid enemy deck guns, I almost was completly sunk because of one deck gun shot at about 3 KM. Lucky pain in the stern tube.

10-02-11, 09:59 PM	#9
Hinrich Schwab Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 908 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Even with small unarmed targets, I use the deck gun as a last resort. Odds are the weather will not cooperate with the desire to use the deck gun and in most instances, you have to man the gun yourself to prevent wasting time and shots. I usually reserve the gun for anything smaller than a Coastal Merchant.

10-03-11, 03:57 AM	#10
papa_smurf Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 2,851 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Wait till Merchants are armed, then come back and tell us how it went using your deckgun __________________

10-03-11, 04:42 AM	#12
VONHARRIS Konteradmiral Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Greece Posts: 1,992 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	I use the deck gun (10,5 cm on a IX) at small UNARMED and UNESCORTED targets and from a safe distance - the closest I get is 1000m. I keep a parallel course to the enemy ship and shell it. I like to think that coming very close to the target , makes my crew a target for small arms fire. I have changed the number of rounds my IX carries: 130 10,5 cm rounds None 3,7 cm rounds - the early war heavy flak is useless. 1000 2 cm rounds.