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HotiBomba · 02-27-11, 06:43 PM

Is there an option to order your crew to fire at enemy ship with deck and flak guns?

I know that flak gun main purpose is AA defense, but sometimes it would be very useful to have option, specialy after mid 1943 when u can arm yourself with flakvierling...

I used flaks sometimes against lone merchants when i was out of torpedoes (or target was not worth of it), or low on deck gun ammunition. I realized that flaks are useful for taking down enemy AA and deck gun too... so is there any mod or option to order you crew to fire from all guns at enemy ship?

Thank you!

frau kaleun · 02-27-11, 08:01 PM

For the deck gun, you have to order the Watch Officer to order "crew on deck" and then order him to have the deck gun manned, then order them to "fire at will." You give those orders by clicking on the WO icon and then successively clicking the appropriate icons assigned to his "station."

If you are using GWX, you will also need to go to the deck gun station yourself and click the HE shell icon to load the first round (the crew is hardwired to load AP ammo first, and in GWX there isn't any, so you have to load the first HE round by manning the gun yourself).

After that they should continue loading and firing at will at the designated target.

Or you can go into the Crew Management screen and double-click the deck gun "compartment" to assign men to the gun, and order them to fire at will. The bit about loading the first HE round yourself in GWX still applies.

Basically it's the same process for getting the flak gun manned and firing, but you don't have to go to the station yourself to get the party started.

IIRC correctly though the crew will only fire the flak gun at aircraft, I've shot up ships with it but I'm pretty sure I had to man it myself to do that.

Edit: on second reading I think you may be asking if it's possible to have both the deck gun and the flak gun manned simultaneously... my gut feeling is no, but I could very well be wrong as I don't remember trying it. I'm still thinking that even if you could a crewman will not fire the AA gun at a ship, only something airborne, and if so you'd have to man it yourself anyway even if you had crew at the deck gun firing that on their own.

HotiBomba · 02-27-11, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Edit: on second reading I think you may be asking if it's possible to have both the deck gun and the flak gun manned simultaneously... my gut feeling is no, but I could very well be wrong as I don't remember trying it. I'm still thinking that even if you could a crewman will not fire the AA gun at a ship, only something airborne, and if so you'd have to man it yourself anyway even if you had crew at the deck gun firing that on their own.

Yes, i know that deck and gun can fire automatically (if manned before, and given order to fire at will), but flak will only look to fire at aircrafts, not on ships. I was looking for solution that all guns aboard fire at enemy ship (like they fire at you

), bastards, they use every gun against you, even the AA, on the other side you can only use Deck (manned automaticaly by crew), and u can pick one flak gun and handle it manualy, others (if u have more like me on IXD2), will do nothing.

I think that you would have more chance against armored merchant shipping, or light armored warships if u can use all guns (in my case it would be 1 Deck gun, and 8x20mm flaks - 1 Flakvierling, 2 Flakzwilling)

frau kaleun · 02-27-11, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HotiBomba

I think that you would have more chance against armored merchant shipping, or light armored warships if u can use all guns (in my case it would be 1 Deck gun, and 8x20mm flak - 1 Flakvierling, 2 Flakzwilling)

Ah, well I have never changed out of my VIIB so I only have the two guns to worry about. Never thought about how it works with that much armament on deck. But it does seem a shame if you can't have them all firing at once if the target merits it.

HotiBomba · 02-27-11, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Ah, well I have never changed out of my VIIB so I only have the two guns to worry about. Never thought about how it works with that much armament on deck. But it does seem a shame if you can't have them all firing at once if the target merits it.

Yes it specially shame when u see how enemy fire all his AA gun at you, and u can use only one (in that case - it would be Flakvierling

) - very powerfull 'little thing'

Frontier359 · 02-28-11, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HotiBomba

Yes it specially shame when u see how enemy fire all his AA gun at you, and u can use only one (in that case - it would be Flakvierling

) - very powerfull 'little thing'

Why would you shell a target that can shoot back? Dive asap, before you lose that ability entirely.

02-27-11, 06:43 PM	#1
HotiBomba Mate Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Croatia Posts: 54 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Need more firepower Is there an option to order your crew to fire at enemy ship with deck and flak guns? I know that flak gun main purpose is AA defense, but sometimes it would be very useful to have option, specialy after mid 1943 when u can arm yourself with flakvierling... I used flaks sometimes against lone merchants when i was out of torpedoes (or target was not worth of it), or low on deck gun ammunition. I realized that flaks are useful for taking down enemy AA and deck gun too... so is there any mod or option to order you crew to fire from all guns at enemy ship? Thank you! __________________ - 'Enemy is pinging us, sir!' - Again? Well... Ping them back, maybe they will leave then

02-27-11, 08:01 PM	#2
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	For the deck gun, you have to order the Watch Officer to order "crew on deck" and then order him to have the deck gun manned, then order them to "fire at will." You give those orders by clicking on the WO icon and then successively clicking the appropriate icons assigned to his "station." If you are using GWX, you will also need to go to the deck gun station yourself and click the HE shell icon to load the first round (the crew is hardwired to load AP ammo first, and in GWX there isn't any, so you have to load the first HE round by manning the gun yourself). After that they should continue loading and firing at will at the designated target. Or you can go into the Crew Management screen and double-click the deck gun "compartment" to assign men to the gun, and order them to fire at will. The bit about loading the first HE round yourself in GWX still applies. Basically it's the same process for getting the flak gun manned and firing, but you don't have to go to the station yourself to get the party started. IIRC correctly though the crew will only fire the flak gun at aircraft, I've shot up ships with it but I'm pretty sure I had to man it myself to do that. Edit: on second reading I think you may be asking if it's possible to have both the deck gun and the flak gun manned simultaneously... my gut feeling is no, but I could very well be wrong as I don't remember trying it. I'm still thinking that even if you could a crewman will not fire the AA gun at a ship, only something airborne, and if so you'd have to man it yourself anyway even if you had crew at the deck gun firing that on their own.