Destroyer detect motionless sub (TMO)

shegeek72 · 08-30-10, 04:18 PM

How can a destroyer detect a montionless sub on silent running at periscope depth from 2000m? Weather is sunny, seas calm. I'm using TMO mod.

razark · 08-30-10, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shegeek72

How can a destroyer detect a montionless sub on silent running at periscope depth from 2000m? Weather is sunny, seas calm. I'm using TMO mod.

Active sonar.

shegeek72 · 08-30-10, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by razark

Active sonar.

What is the range of active sonar?

razark · 08-30-10, 05:32 PM

Hrm. Not sure. I missed the range when I read your post the first time.

08-30-10, 07:44 PM

the game likes to cheat and sometimes it finds you even when its totally unrealistic to do so.

unrealistic detection by the AI has been a long standing issue UBI has never fixed and not everything can be fixed by mods

Budds · 08-30-10, 08:36 PM

This seems to help tho ................

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ToAOB-SonarFIX

Nice Work !

Capt. Morgan · 08-31-10, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Budds

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http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ToAOB-SonarFIX

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Initially I was pretty excited about this. It works perfectly at preventing unrealistic detection, but I found that I was never counter-attacked while using it.

Normally, when my torpedos are detected, the escorts come charging towards me. With this fix, they'd just start slowly circling wherever they were. Curious to hear if anyone else had similar experiences.

@shegeek72
Maybe your machinist dropped a big box of wrenches? Calm water will also greatly increase the enemies ability to detect you.

If you haven't read it already, this explains how the AI works
http://www.ducimus.net/sh415/ai.htm

Ducimus · 08-31-10, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shegeek72

How can a destroyer detect a montionless sub on silent running at periscope depth from 2000m? Weather is sunny, seas calm. I'm using TMO mod.

Calm seas are optimal sonar conditions, while you can get a way with bloody murder in rougher conditions.

Being detected in this case may have occured:

- if that partiuclar escorts sonar (pasive or active) was a better model then what is/was usual.

- if you were spotted by a plane. (if they see you, they will notify units in the area)

- Sea was REALLY REALLY calm, like 0 kt winds or something.

That said, i made an easier AI modlet awhile ago for those who find themselves screaming BS:
http://www.filefront.com/16748545/TMO-Easier-AI.7z/

This modlet is NOT compatible with the beta update to TMO 2.0 I "leaked" last week.

08-30-10, 04:18 PM	#1
shegeek72 WAV Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: somewhere in the Pacific Posts: 603 Downloads: 95 Uploads: 0	Destroyer detect motionless sub (TMO) How can a destroyer detect a montionless sub on silent running at periscope depth from 2000m? Weather is sunny, seas calm. I'm using TMO mod.

08-30-10, 05:32 PM	#4
razark Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,731 Downloads: 393 Uploads: 12	Hrm. Not sure. I missed the range when I read your post the first time. __________________ "Never ask a World War II history buff for a 'final solution' to your problem!"

08-30-10, 07:44 PM	#5
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	the game likes to cheat and sometimes it finds you even when its totally unrealistic to do so. unrealistic detection by the AI has been a long standing issue UBI has never fixed and not everything can be fixed by mods

08-30-10, 08:36 PM	#6
Budds Bosun Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 68 Downloads: 236 Uploads: 0	This seems to help tho ................ http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ToAOB-SonarFIX Nice Work !