renown in SHIII GWX 3.0

[Tolkemec]

hello everybody,

I periodically come back to the old sim. Never tried SH4 because I personally feel unrelated to the pacific scenario and I'm certainly not going to buy SH5 at any price because of the internet requirement thingy).

I play at something near 90% realism and after 3 patrols (the first one being pre-war), I have sunk 20.000 t worth of merchants, but I only receive about 200 - 250 renown per patrol (so now I have more or less before my 4th patrol only 500).

I am aware that the game awards renown based only on tonnage and realism, but I remember being able to switch from my IIA tipe to IID or maybe VII in 4 or 5 patrols.

If this continues, I will be (if I amb lucky), stuck with my IIA until my 10th or 11th patrol, if and only if I do not update my boat (I remember the VII being price at 2.500).

Is this normal? I am missing something?

Thanks and good hunt!

[RConch]

With 500 renown you will be able to get a IID when it becomes available in Oct 1939 I believe.
There is a small mod that does allows for the replacement of the 500 renown for reaching and patrolling your area for 24 hours that was removed from GWX.

[Herr-Berbunch]

You could try WB's replacement renown mod, works with GWX3, in fact I'm downloading it myself right now -

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=f...1041a3fc51d567

[irish1958]

Originally Posted by Tolkemec

hello everybody,

I periodically come back to the old sim. Never tried SH4 because I personally feel unrelated to the pacific scenario and I'm certainly not going to buy SH5 at any price because of the internet requirement thingy).

I play at something near 90% realism and after 3 patrols (the first one being pre-war), I have sunk 20.000 t worth of merchants, but I only receive about 200 - 250 renown per patrol (so now I have more or less before my 4th patrol only 500).

I am aware that the game awards renown based only on tonnage and realism, but I remember being able to switch from my IIA tipe to IID or maybe VII in 4 or 5 patrols.

If this continues, I will be (if I amb lucky), stuck with my IIA until my 10th or 11th patrol, if and only if I do not update my boat (I remember the VII being price at 2.500).

Is this normal? I am missing something?

Thanks and good hunt!

Using renown to buy new equipment is not realistic. You can edit the basic config file to remove this. NYGM mod does this.
What I do is to remove renown for equipment and personnel upgrades, and then use the renown to track my progress in the war until I get sunk (I have never been able to finish the war (DID+100%)
I find this a better solution for the problem rather than editing the saved game files to increase renown.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by irish1958

Using renown to buy new equipment is not realistic. You can edit the basic config file to remove this. NYGM mod does this.
What I do is to remove renown for equipment and personnel upgrades, and then use the renown to track my progress in the war until I get sunk (I have never been able to finish the war (DID+100%)
I find this a better solution for the problem rather than editing the saved game files to increase renown.

schoolmaster example,for you

[Tolkemec]

Thanks for the replies...

To Herr Berbunch: I might try that, but I don't want to mess around with mods, I've lost a lot of careers doing this... and saving at the wrong moment (I actually SAVED one corrupt Save pushing while in the loading screen a LOT of keys + ALT-TAB, shaking the computer, putting it upside down, etc..., I ACTUALLY SAVED IT, just to be depth charged by an angry DD near Scapa one game month later).

Soooo, Should I try it, WHEN do I have to mod (using JGME)? I know I must do that while in port. Is it important AFTER or BEFORE patrol?

To Irish1958. mmmm, I don't thing that renown to get things done is SO unrealistc. I imagine this system as being a mixture of , renow, yes, but also networking, high profile friends, etc...

I've now been working in a big company for two years and a half, I now know how some people get the two armrest chairs, the blackberry curve, chromed stapler or the windowed office.

The question is: is it normal to get 250 renown for a 10.000 t patrol??

Thanks and good hunt!

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Tolkemec

Thanks for the replies...

To Herr Berbunch: I might try that, but I don't want to mess around with mods, I've lost a lot of careers doing this... and saving at the wrong moment (I actually SAVED one corrupt Save pushing while in the loading screen a LOT of keys + ALT-TAB, shaking the computer, putting it upside down, etc..., I ACTUALLY SAVED IT, just to be depth charged by an angry DD near Scapa one game month later).

Soooo, Should I try it, WHEN do I have to mod (using JGME)? I know I must do that while in port. Is it important AFTER or BEFORE patrol?

To Irish1958. mmmm, I don't thing that renown to get things done is SO unrealistc. I imagine this system as being a mixture of , renow, yes, but also networking, high profile friends, etc...

I've now been working in a big company for two years and a half, I now know how some people get the two armrest chairs, the blackberry curve, chromed stapler or the windowed office.

The question is: is it normal to get 250 renown for a 10.000 t patrol??

Thanks and good hunt!

in % ?

[Tolkemec]

Yeah, in %... I don't remember getting them to be so hard!

[Herr-Berbunch]

Originally Posted by Tolkemec

Soooo, Should I try it, WHEN do I have to mod (using JGME)? I know I must do that while in port. Is it important AFTER or BEFORE patrol?

I don't know, I usually enable mods before starting up Commander so that would be before (or a long time after) a patrol, I've never done it with the game running.

If you're worried about save games, you could locate the saves and copy one (renamed) and try it that way.

Fingers crossed

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Tolkemec

Never tried SH4 because I personally feel unrelated to the pacific scenario...

I keep telling people that I play SH4 with u-boats IN THE ATLANTIC.

I certainly respect your decision not to buy or play it, but the reason given is invalid.

Mods are installed between patrols. I think that would be after the last one and before the next one.

[Tolkemec]

Oh! That WOULD be cool (I don't read every post in subsim, so I didn't know that playing SHIV in the atlantic against the allies was possible). Anyway, my computer doesn't have the specs

I assume this reason will be ok for you.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Tolkemec

The question is: is it normal to get 250 renown for a 10.000 t patrol??

Thanks and good hunt!

The amount of renown awarded is proportionate to the realism setting you have.

Eg: Sinking a ship worth 1000 renown whilst being at 50% realism would mean you would only get 500 renown.

[Sailor Steve]

Funny, I've never thought about it in five years of play, but you would think the opposite would be true - more renown would be awarded at lower difficulty levels, rather than less. That's why it's less 'realistic'.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Funny, I've never thought about it in five years of play, but you would think the opposite would be true - more renown would be awarded at lower difficulty levels, rather than less. That's why it's less 'realistic'.

I think using 50% was a bad example........

A 1000 renown ship would yield 100 renown at 10% realism and the same vessel would yield 900 renown at 90% realism

[Captain Nemo]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

I think using 50% was a bad example........

A 1000 renown ship would yield 100 renown at 10% realism and the same vessel would yield 900 renown at 90% realism

Not quite, at 10% realism a 1000 renown ship would yield 325. At 90% realism you would get 925. Just to complete all your examples, at 50% realism you would get 625 in renown. An additional example, at 0% realism you would earn 250 in renown. It's geared that way so if you decide to play at 0% realism you still earn renown.

Nemo