[WIP]AilHull

Ailantd · 04-05-10, 12:29 PM

Working in this right now:

I´m changing hull bump textures, so the effect is light dependant.
Note that intensity of effect it is not final.

Problem is that developers used bump right oriented in one side of sub, and inverted in the oposite side, wich is good to save memory, but never should be done in normal mapping textures without made a different shader in code to handle that. Of course this is not the case and in the oposite side effect it is not so good. Sometimes I would like to know who was the person to make that such crapy decisions and why.

Anyway it looks more realistic than vanilla so it is coming soon.

EgoApocalypse · 04-05-10, 12:30 PM

Sweet..............................

Good job again.

The General · 04-05-10, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ailantd

Problem is that developers used bump right oriented in one side of sub, and inverted in the oposite side, which is good to save memory, but should never be done in normal mapping textures without made a different shader in code to handle that. Of course this is not the case and in the oposite side effect it is not so good. Sometimes I would like to know who was the person to make that such crapy decisions and why.

Hmm, not sure what you mean, 'cos it's technical, but it does't sound good

Danevang · 04-05-10, 01:06 PM

I may be wrong, but I remember reading somewhere, some time ago, that submarines getting their skin pressed in, showing the ribs etc as bumps on the surface was more of an issue with WW2 American subs, than with German. I'm not sure why, different construction? Different operating depths? Anyway, I remember seeing many pictures of Gato class subs with this skin thing, but I don't recall having actually seen a single one of a German type VII.

Is it just me remembering wrong, or is there something to this?

Ailantd · 04-05-10, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danevang

I may be wrong, but I remember reading somewhere, some time ago, that submarines getting their skin pressed in, showing the ribs etc as bumps on the surface was more of an issue with WW2 American subs, than with German. I'm not sure why, different construction? Different operating depths? Anyway, I remember seeing many pictures of Gato class subs with this skin thing, but I don't recall having actually seen a single one of a German type VII.

Is it just me remembering wrong, or is there something to this?

This kind of effect is produced by heavy waves against the hull, so it is dependant of material, construction and the time the sub has been sailing. It is true that in german subs this effect is very little noticiable as they were very well contructed, but it was there as you can see here , or even here in some parts of XXI type hull. The shot I posted is WIP with the effect very exagerated, so I can see how it works. Final one will be very sutile to fit better with reality.

rcjonessnp175 · 04-05-10, 01:58 PM

Nice this is another awesome modder discovery

Sailor Steve · 04-05-10, 02:04 PM

Something like this was already done in SH3. If it forces any skin used with it to look like that, then I'm all for it.

reaper7 · 04-05-10, 02:23 PM

Nice, can't wait to see the finished look.

Regio Sommergibile · 04-05-10, 02:58 PM

amazing...

Ailantd · 04-05-10, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Something like this was already done in SH3. If it forces any skin used with it to look like that, then I'm all for it.

It is only in the bump map, so it is compatible with any skin.

Sailor Steve · 04-05-10, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ailantd

It is only in the bump map, so it is compatible with any skin.

That is cool!

conus00 · 04-05-10, 04:42 PM

That looks pretty good! BTW its called the "canning effect".

vonTorpitz · 04-05-10, 08:44 PM

Nice job. All fans of SH are lucky to have you working on this and all your others throughout the series. Thanks

rsvette12 · 04-05-10, 10:03 PM

Excellent addition, nice job.

Rich

Regio Sommergibile · 04-06-10, 03:40 AM

Can't believe how much stuff has been left aside by Devs after 4 chapters of this game...

04-05-10, 12:29 PM	#1
Ailantd Bosun Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ganimedes Posts: 64 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	[WIP]AilHull Working in this right now: I´m changing hull bump textures, so the effect is light dependant. Note that intensity of effect it is not final. Problem is that developers used bump right oriented in one side of sub, and inverted in the oposite side, wich is good to save memory, but never should be done in normal mapping textures without made a different shader in code to handle that. Of course this is not the case and in the oposite side effect it is not so good. Sometimes I would like to know who was the person to make that such crapy decisions and why. Anyway it looks more realistic than vanilla so it is coming soon. __________________ Ailantd www.Ailantd.com

04-05-10, 12:30 PM	#2
EgoApocalypse Lieutenant Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The system might fail you. But dont fail youself................... Posts: 252 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Sweet..............................Good job again. __________________

04-05-10, 01:06 PM	#4
Danevang Helmsman Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 109 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	I may be wrong, but I remember reading somewhere, some time ago, that submarines getting their skin pressed in, showing the ribs etc as bumps on the surface was more of an issue with WW2 American subs, than with German. I'm not sure why, different construction? Different operating depths? Anyway, I remember seeing many pictures of Gato class subs with this skin thing, but I don't recall having actually seen a single one of a German type VII. Is it just me remembering wrong, or is there something to this? __________________

04-05-10, 01:58 PM	#6
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04-05-10, 02:04 PM	#7
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Something like this was already done in SH3. If it forces any skin used with it to look like that, then I'm all for it. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

04-05-10, 02:23 PM	#8
reaper7 sim2reality Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: AM 82 Posts: 2,280 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 30	Nice, can't wait to see the finished look.

04-05-10, 02:58 PM	#9
Regio Sommergibile Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: patrolling CN-69 Posts: 244 Downloads: 181 Uploads: 0	amazing... __________________

04-05-10, 04:42 PM	#12
conus00 Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2008 Location: DB85 Posts: 804 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 0	That looks pretty good! BTW its called the "canning effect". __________________

04-05-10, 08:44 PM	#13
vonTorpitz Seaman Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: an island in the Pacific Posts: 42 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Nice job. All fans of SH are lucky to have you working on this and all your others throughout the series. Thanks __________________ God damn them all. I was told, we'd cruise the seas for American gold. We'd fire no guns, shed no tears. Now I'm a broken man on a Halifax pier. The last of Barrett's privateers.

04-05-10, 10:03 PM	#14
rsvette12 Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 263 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Excellent addition, nice job. Rich

04-06-10, 03:40 AM	#15
Regio Sommergibile Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: patrolling CN-69 Posts: 244 Downloads: 181 Uploads: 0	Can't believe how much stuff has been left aside by Devs after 4 chapters of this game... __________________