Refueling..???

cptroyce · 05-16-10, 04:20 PM

OK..here comes the noobiest question of the day...

I am on patrol, Philippines, 121 E/11N, and I just realized that my fuel is 33/100. I'm gussing I need to refuel.

How do I determine a base to refuel at?
Would I have to go back to Freemantle(don't think I can make that)?
Have I over extended my patrol reach and time and now am past a point of return?

Help!

Royce

Diopos · 05-16-10, 04:41 PM

You can refit and refuel ay any base.

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cptroyce · 05-16-10, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diopos

You can refit and refuel ay any base.

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You mean any Allied Base? With an Anchor icon? Surely not any base in the area..they are all Japanese held.

Royce

Jan Kyster · 05-16-10, 05:16 PM

How cool wouldn't that be if you could sneak into an enemy harbour and steal some diesel?

Unfortunately SH IV doesn't support that...

so yes, look for an anchor.

cptroyce · 05-16-10, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jan Kyster

How cool wouldn't that be if you could sneak into an enemy harbour and steal some diesel?

Unfortunately SH IV doesn't support that...

so yes, look for an anchor.

I don't think I'll make it back to Aussie on 1/3 remaining fuel..I suppose I need to think more about speed and patrol time usage next career.

Regards,
Royce

tomoose · 05-17-10, 11:36 AM

Cptroyce;
yes, fuel is something you definitely have to keep an eye on. If you run out of fuel there is no option for a tow or rescue.

For what it's worth my standard rule is once I reach the 50% fuel mark during a mission then I have to start thinking about;
a. where I am (current mission task),
b. where I'm going (next mission task), and
c. do I have enough fuel to continue and then head back.

Of course, any action during all of the above will cut into your estimates but fortunately you do have the "range at current speed" calculation button which helps a lot.

Admiral8Q · 05-17-10, 02:57 PM

TMO fixed the fuel problem, otherwise I find in stock you have to move around at 1/3 or 2/3 to conserve fuel. I complained about that in these forums also

I don't know if there is a stand alone fix, maybe someone else knows...

cptroyce · 05-17-10, 05:01 PM

[QUOTE=tomoose;1395399]Cptroyce;
yes, fuel is something you definitely have to keep an eye on. If you run out of fuel there is no option for a tow or rescue.
For what it's worth my standard rule is once I reach the 50% fuel mark during a mission then I have to start thinking about;....

Tomoose - thanks for that info..Since I'm new, I didn't give fuel a second thought until I received the low fuel icon warning. Now I'll need to refrain from sailing around at "Full" and wasting resources wandering around the Celebes Sea.

However when one is out of Freemantle and on patrol around the Philippines there is alot of sea to traverse...just to get to your patrol point. Most fuel is used, just getting "on station". How do you more experienced SH'ers handle this type of mission??

..but fortunately you do have the "range at current speed" calculation button which helps a lot.

Uhh..where is that? (hides head asking)

Admiral8Q · 05-17-10, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cptroyce

However when one is out of Freemantle and on patrol around the Philippines there is alot of sea to traverse...just to get to your patrol point. Most fuel is used, just getting "on station". How do you more experienced SH'ers handle this type of mission??

Uh, that was what I was trying to explain. You'll need to go 1/3 to 2/3 pretty well the whole time until you get a contact to chase.

That would mean the whole way t the Philippines from Freemantle, and on the way back too. That's one of the reasons I started looking for a mod. Now I can run at standard the majority of the time and even sprint to Midway on full speed sometimes (If I still have lots of fuel after a quick patrol), then refuel and sprint to Pearl Harbor.

les green01 · 05-17-10, 05:14 PM

1/2 speed 1/4 at 33% of fuel you might make it make sure your battery is charge and click off the charge button

cptroyce · 05-17-10, 05:29 PM

Thanks guys..

Admiral8Q
>> Uh, that was what I was trying to explain.<<

Got it now

les green01
Nice to read that sig quote..not enough people still understand that today; this forum probably excepted!

Regards,
Royce

Diopos · 05-17-10, 05:36 PM

Do your traveling at ~ 9 kts. On the surface.

Submerge to attack or survive. Moving submerged is fuel intensive. Avoid it when possible.

If you've sustained any form of damage, follow closely the recharghing of your batteries. It is possible that they wont recharge 100%. In such a case stop auto recharging. Recharhing batteries costs diesel.

Yes most of your fuel will be spent to reach your mission objective and return to base. If you allocate 10-20% of your fuel for reserve/contingency purposes you'll find that the actual availability of fuel for combat/patrol purposes maybe lower than 20%. Not unrealistic mind you. Fleet boats would routinely travel 30-40 days to and back from their patrol stations where they remained for less than a week. The Pacific is a BIG pond!

As the war progresses and more "forward" bases are established fuel becomes a lesser concern but always remember nobody if going to tug you home if you run dry!

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les green01 · 05-17-10, 08:37 PM

Audie Murphy has special meaning to me as a old friend serve with him and i spent many hours helping him with stuff and working for him and he would tell me the stories

tomoose · 05-18-10, 09:16 AM

Cptroyce;
I forget which row of buttons it's in but look for the icon which shows a stopwatch symbol and a <----> symbol which is "time to end of course" next to it is the "range at current speed" button (and for the life of me I can't remember what the graphic is, LOL).

This is in TMO BTW I can't remember if it was available in stock.

les green01 · 05-18-10, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomoose

Cptroyce;
I forget which row of buttons it's in but look for the icon which shows a stopwatch symbol and a <----> symbol which is "time to end of course" next to it is the "range at current speed" button (and for the life of me I can't remember what the graphic is, LOL).

This is in TMO BTW I can't remember if it was available in stock.

it is available in stock

05-16-10, 04:20 PM	#1
cptroyce Gunner Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 99 Downloads: 298 Uploads: 0	Refueling..??? OK..here comes the noobiest question of the day... I am on patrol, Philippines, 121 E/11N, and I just realized that my fuel is 33/100. I'm gussing I need to refuel. How do I determine a base to refuel at? Would I have to go back to Freemantle(don't think I can make that)? Have I over extended my patrol reach and time and now am past a point of return? Help! Royce

05-16-10, 04:41 PM	#2
Diopos Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Athens, the original one. Posts: 1,226 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	You can refit and refuel ay any base. . __________________ - Oh God! They're all over the place! CRASH DIVE!!! - Ehm... we can't honey. We're in the car right now. - What?... er right... Doesn't matter! We'll give it a try anyway!

05-17-10, 11:36 AM	#6
tomoose Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 930 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Fuel Cptroyce; yes, fuel is something you definitely have to keep an eye on. If you run out of fuel there is no option for a tow or rescue. For what it's worth my standard rule is once I reach the 50% fuel mark during a mission then I have to start thinking about; a. where I am (current mission task), b. where I'm going (next mission task), and c. do I have enough fuel to continue and then head back. Of course, any action during all of the above will cut into your estimates but fortunately you do have the "range at current speed" calculation button which helps a lot.

05-17-10, 02:57 PM	#7
Admiral8Q Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Prince Edward Island, Canada Posts: 1,077 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	TMO fixed the fuel problem, otherwise I find in stock you have to move around at 1/3 or 2/3 to conserve fuel. I complained about that in these forums also I don't know if there is a stand alone fix, maybe someone else knows... __________________

05-17-10, 05:14 PM	#10
les green01 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Freeman Missouri Posts: 1,784 Downloads: 1405 Uploads: 0	1/2 speed 1/4 at 33% of fuel you might make it make sure your battery is charge and click off the charge button __________________ I'll tell you what bravery really is. Bravery is just determination to do a job that you know has to be done. Audie Murphy

05-16-10, 05:16 PM	#4
Jan Kyster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,151 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	How cool wouldn't that be if you could sneak into an enemy harbour and steal some diesel? Unfortunately SH IV doesn't support that... so yes, look for an anchor.

05-17-10, 05:01 PM	#8
cptroyce Gunner Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 99 Downloads: 298 Uploads: 0	[QUOTE=tomoose;1395399]Cptroyce; yes, fuel is something you definitely have to keep an eye on. If you run out of fuel there is no option for a tow or rescue. For what it's worth my standard rule is once I reach the 50% fuel mark during a mission then I have to start thinking about;.... Tomoose - thanks for that info..Since I'm new, I didn't give fuel a second thought until I received the low fuel icon warning. Now I'll need to refrain from sailing around at "Full" and wasting resources wandering around the Celebes Sea. However when one is out of Freemantle and on patrol around the Philippines there is alot of sea to traverse...just to get to your patrol point. Most fuel is used, just getting "on station". How do you more experienced SH'ers handle this type of mission?? ..but fortunately you do have the "range at current speed" calculation button which helps a lot. Uhh..where is that? (hides head asking)

05-17-10, 05:29 PM	#11
cptroyce Gunner Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 99 Downloads: 298 Uploads: 0	Thanks guys.. Admiral8Q >> Uh, that was what I was trying to explain.<< Got it now les green01 Nice to read that sig quote..not enough people still understand that today; this forum probably excepted! Regards, Royce Last edited by cptroyce; 05-17-10 at 09:07 PM.

05-17-10, 05:36 PM	#12
Diopos Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Athens, the original one. Posts: 1,226 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Do your traveling at ~ 9 kts. On the surface. Submerge to attack or survive. Moving submerged is fuel intensive. Avoid it when possible. If you've sustained any form of damage, follow closely the recharghing of your batteries. It is possible that they wont recharge 100%. In such a case stop auto recharging. Recharhing batteries costs diesel. Yes most of your fuel will be spent to reach your mission objective and return to base. If you allocate 10-20% of your fuel for reserve/contingency purposes you'll find that the actual availability of fuel for combat/patrol purposes maybe lower than 20%. Not unrealistic mind you. Fleet boats would routinely travel 30-40 days to and back from their patrol stations where they remained for less than a week. The Pacific is a BIG pond! As the war progresses and more "forward" bases are established fuel becomes a lesser concern but always remember nobody if going to tug you home if you run dry! . __________________ - Oh God! They're all over the place! CRASH DIVE!!! - Ehm... we can't honey. We're in the car right now. - What?... er right... Doesn't matter! We'll give it a try anyway!

05-17-10, 08:37 PM	#13
les green01 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Freeman Missouri Posts: 1,784 Downloads: 1405 Uploads: 0	Audie Murphy has special meaning to me as a old friend serve with him and i spent many hours helping him with stuff and working for him and he would tell me the stories __________________ I'll tell you what bravery really is. Bravery is just determination to do a job that you know has to be done. Audie Murphy

05-18-10, 09:16 AM	#14
tomoose Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 930 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	"range at current speed" Cptroyce; I forget which row of buttons it's in but look for the icon which shows a stopwatch symbol and a <----> symbol which is "time to end of course" next to it is the "range at current speed" button (and for the life of me I can't remember what the graphic is, LOL). This is in TMO BTW I can't remember if it was available in stock.