Another funky idea.

maillemaker · 05-17-10, 02:33 PM

OK, so everyone poo-pooed my idea of floatable radio transmitters to lure away bad guys, or allow a radio transmission to be sent out after the sub left the area.

But last night, after having escorts shooting at my exposed periscope, I had another fun though.

What if the sub carried a bunch of external, weighted buoys that stuck out of the water looking like....a periscope!?

Being pursued by escorts? No problem. Don't drop a noisemaker, drop a periscope buoy!

I can just see the escorts and merchants having fits as there are twenty or so periscopes bobbing in the seas all around them!

Steve

Brag · 05-17-10, 02:50 PM

You are swimming in the area of speculative fiction. Add propellers to your flotascopes.

gordonmull · 05-17-10, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Brag

Add propellers to your flotascopes.

Might as well go the whole hog and throw in a few eels as well...

Come to think of it, a whole bunch of mini-subs all in the tubes of the mother sub!

Diopos · 05-17-10, 03:08 PM

Ejectable trained kanikaze seals loaded with explosives....

(BTW I dont mean Navy Seals

).

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Lord_magerius · 05-17-10, 03:13 PM

Too easy to deter the seals though, DD's would drop fish as decoys or have giant clubs fitted to the keel, goodbye Mr seal.

gordonmull · 05-17-10, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Diopos

Ejectable trained kanikaze seals loaded with explosives.....

Puts me in mind of the German anti-tank dog experiment that ended so comically badly!

maillemaker · 05-17-10, 03:52 PM

heheheh I just think it's amusing the thought of twenty periscopes appearing floating around in the midst of confused ships.

Steve

Wreford-Brown · 05-17-10, 04:29 PM

How about a floating noisemaker with a periscope on top? Now that'll really mess with those DD crews heads.

Sailor Steve · 05-17-10, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by maillemaker

heheheh I just think it's amusing the thought of twenty periscopes appearing floating around in the midst of confused ships.

Steve

When HMS Bulwark blew up in harbor during WW1, almost certainly from faulty powder, several witnesses came forward during the investigation and swore they had seen periscopes inside Plymouth harbour!

Later, during the battle of Jutland, at least two British attacks were aborted because someone "saw" a periscope.

Trust me, you don't need dummies. There are plenty of them out there already.

maillemaker · 05-17-10, 05:23 PM

If the mere THOUGHT of periscopes incites that kind of panic, what an even better reason to have real decoys then!

Especially if you could somehow make them go up and down....

Steve

timmy41 · 05-18-10, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by maillemaker

If the mere THOUGHT of periscopes incites that kind of panic, what an even better reason to have real decoys then!

Especially if you could somehow make them go up and down....

Steve

the noisemakers already have to balance their own buoyancy by the rate of their release, otherwise they would float to the surface or sink down. so im sure it would be possible to have some type of device on it to change its buoyancy in a pattern, it could be powered by the gas escaping itself, or some type of potential energy device like a wound up torque spring.

bigboywooly · 05-18-10, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by gordonmull

Puts me in mind of the German anti-tank dog experiment that ended so comically badly!

Wasnt that the Russians

Trained the dogs to find food under T34s so would explode underneath
When they let them loose in battle against the Germans they turned tail and ran under the T34s as thats what they had been trained on

Jimbuna · 05-18-10, 07:00 AM

LOL, very true

Just as sick as training dolphins though....if the rumours had turned out to be true

http://www.trivia-library.com/a/the-...ins-part-1.htm

Wreford-Brown · 05-18-10, 07:13 AM

The truth is almost as strange as fiction:
http://www.spawar.navy.mil/sandiego/technology/mammals/

Jimbuna · 05-18-10, 09:42 AM

Yeah but unless I'm missing something aren't those dolphins only trained to detect and/or mark the location of mines?

05-17-10, 02:33 PM	#1
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	Another funky idea. OK, so everyone poo-pooed my idea of floatable radio transmitters to lure away bad guys, or allow a radio transmission to be sent out after the sub left the area. But last night, after having escorts shooting at my exposed periscope, I had another fun though. What if the sub carried a bunch of external, weighted buoys that stuck out of the water looking like....a periscope!? Being pursued by escorts? No problem. Don't drop a noisemaker, drop a periscope buoy! I can just see the escorts and merchants having fits as there are twenty or so periscopes bobbing in the seas all around them! Steve

05-17-10, 02:50 PM	#2
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05-17-10, 03:08 PM	#4
Diopos Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Athens, the original one. Posts: 1,226 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Ejectable trained kanikaze seals loaded with explosives.... (BTW I dont mean Navy Seals ). . __________________ - Oh God! They're all over the place! CRASH DIVE!!! - Ehm... we can't honey. We're in the car right now. - What?... er right... Doesn't matter! We'll give it a try anyway!

05-17-10, 03:13 PM	#5
Lord_magerius Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Right by the hydrophone station Posts: 724 Downloads: 96 Uploads: 0	Too easy to deter the seals though, DD's would drop fish as decoys or have giant clubs fitted to the keel, goodbye Mr seal. __________________

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Wreford-Brown Sea Lord Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In sight of Stonehenge Posts: 1,750 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 26	How about a floating noisemaker with a periscope on top? Now that'll really mess with those DD crews heads. __________________ All my mods are available at MediaFire: SH3 Mods Other modders SH3 mods SH4 Mods ...you can't please all of the people all of the time...

05-17-10, 03:52 PM	#7
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	heheheh I just think it's amusing the thought of twenty periscopes appearing floating around in the midst of confused ships. Steve

05-17-10, 05:23 PM	#10
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	If the mere THOUGHT of periscopes incites that kind of panic, what an even better reason to have real decoys then! Especially if you could somehow make them go up and down.... Steve

05-18-10, 07:00 AM	#13
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,584 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	LOL, very true Just as sick as training dolphins though....if the rumours had turned out to be true http://www.trivia-library.com/a/the-...ins-part-1.htm __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

05-18-10, 07:13 AM	#14
Wreford-Brown Sea Lord Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In sight of Stonehenge Posts: 1,750 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 26	The truth is almost as strange as fiction: http://www.spawar.navy.mil/sandiego/technology/mammals/ __________________ All my mods are available at MediaFire: SH3 Mods Other modders SH3 mods SH4 Mods ...you can't please all of the people all of the time...

05-18-10, 09:42 AM	#15
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,584 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Yeah but unless I'm missing something aren't those dolphins only trained to detect and/or mark the location of mines? __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!