An Alternative?

[Diopos]

Big companies, obligatory internet connections, pay per month, per minute per "play" (or in general pay pay pay), end of subsimming, end of PC gaming, pirates, hackers and even what constitutes "owning" a single player game....
What about an alternative? Open source PC subsim ?????

(Fire away!)

[razark]

Originally Posted by Diopos

Open source PC subsim ?????

Sounds great. Let us know when you finish it.

Of course, we don't expect you to do it all yourself. You can get a bunch of people working on it in their free time. I'm sure you can manage 20+ people, all trying to reach their own goals, to get it perfectly right.

Get the idea yet? There's a reason that companies backed by lots of cash make games.

Not that I'm against the idea, I just don't think a group of volunteers could build it from scratch, and get the quality that people are looking for here.

[JU_88]

Well the reality is that we technically dont 'own' our games and never have done.
when you buy software, you dont 'own it' you just own a licence to use it - nothing more.

[HundertzehnGustav]

Originally Posted by Diopos

Big companies, obligatory internet connections, pay per month, per minute per "play" (or in general pay pay pay), end of subsimming, end of PC gaming, pirates, hackers and even what constitutes "owing" a single player game....
What about an alternative? Open source PC subsim ?????

(Fire away!)

Women. a whole bunch of em. Nekkid.

[longam]

Greed will never stop and corp world will decide.

[Nordmann]

Originally Posted by Diopos

Big companies, obligatory internet connections, pay per month, per minute per "play" (or in general pay pay pay), end of subsimming, end of PC gaming, pirates, hackers and even what constitutes "owing" a single player game....
What about an alternative? Open source PC subsim ?????

(Fire away!)

The end is not upon is, there's still money to be made from us sub-simmers after all. All that rubbish about pirates being the death of PC gaming, well that's been touted since the early 2000s, and look, PC gaming is still here. As with governments, they will attempt to use scare tactics to achieve their aims, like the old "But without DRM, no one will make any more games!" line that I must have heard a thousand times. Yet there are developers who do not use DRM, and they have yet to go out of business!

There's a saying, never trust a politician, well the same can be said of game developers and publishers. Most of their claims are simply an attempt to gain acceptance of new policies/schemes, all you have to do is read their DRM Q&A, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

[Brag]

Some ideas:

The GWX team has already done a lot of work. Build on that?

Find a way to support the Danger from the Deep people.

Encourage Akella, they already have a surface engine, at least

It would be great to have a publisher where management has a passion for the genre.

[Nordmann]

Originally Posted by Brag

Some ideas:

The GWX team has already done a lot of work. Build on that?

Find a way to support the Danger from the Deep people.

Encourage Akella, they already have a surface engine, at least

It would be great to have a publisher where management has a passion for the genre.

Agreed. When it comes to passion though, indie games are usually your best bet. It seems to me, that the passion for this series has died, either the devs are burned out, or Ubi is past caring (having so many other games).

[IanC]

Originally Posted by Nordmann

The end is not upon is, there's still money to be made from us sub-simmers after all. All that rubbish about pirates being the death of PC gaming, well that's been touted since the early 2000s, and look, PC gaming is still here. As with governments, they will attempt to use scare tactics to achieve their aims, like the old "But without DRM, no one will make any more games!" line that I must have heard a thousand times. Yet there are developers who do not use DRM, and they have yet to go out of business!

There's a saying, never trust a politician, well the same can be said of game developers and publishers. Most of their claims are simply an attempt to gain acceptance of new policies/schemes, all you have to do is read their DRM Q&A, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Yup I agree. Do it our way or it's all doom and gloom. I'm not buying it (pun intended).
Besides, I think they've been saying pirates would be the end of gaming since the early 80's if I remember correctly.

[Heretic]

My Lord, I have a cunning plan:

1. Win the lottery
2. Buy the Silent Hunter rights from Ubisoft
3. Hire the Silent Hunter team


It'll work. I know it will

[Nordmann]

Originally Posted by Heretic

My Lord, I have a cunning plan:

1. Win the lottery
2. Buy the Silent Hunter rights from Ubisoft
3. Hire the Silent Hunter team


It'll work. I know it will

If only, though it would need to be a very big win, and I have a feeling they wouldn't sell in any case.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Brag

Some ideas:

The GWX team has already done a lot of work. Build on that?

Find a way to support the Danger from the Deep people.

Encourage Akella, they already have a surface engine, at least

It would be great to have a publisher where management has a passion for the genre.

Akella made PT Boats. Did you buy PT Boats? That would encourage Akella.

[Brag]

Neal, Both PT bosts snd POTC are on my list. I'm working at getting a machine, originally meant for SH5. Once I get machine, will have to figure out a way of getting the games sent to Chile.

There is another Subsimmer in the country, but up north. We might bundle orders together.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Heretic

My Lord, I have a cunning plan:

That plan is so cunning you could pin a tail on it and call it a fox!

Just wanted you to know the reference was noticed and appreciated.

[AVGWarhawk]

Can I ask a question? Lets take a look at SH4 for a moment. How many new faces in modding showed up for SH4? More than a handful...a lot more than a hand full. How many super mods were created by these new faces for SH4? I can think of 5 right off the bat. RFB, TMO, OM, RSRD and FOTRS. That is just five MAJOR mods created by new folks here at SS other than Ducimus who has been here since..well forever. Lets talk S3D Editor. Designed by who? Skwasjer! For? SH4! A new face that created a new tool that made modding obtainable by anyone wishing to load S3D Editor and changing a value or two. Then lets talk about Leovampire. This guy inspired so many to mod and enjoy SH4. Super nice guy. Did great work. Come on the scene here like gang busters. There are countless other new faces that modded files here and there. Discovered fixes. SH5 will draw just as many new faces to modding as SH4 or SH3 ever did. We are already seeing new members or long standing lurking members posting. It has already stirred the pot. I think too good effect. Already there is a modding post in the SH5 section for modding. The creative juices are warming up and new talent for modding will show as well. History shows this is the case when it come to SS and the SH series. To be sure, looking at SH5, there is a great starting point to make the game great. I really believe that. I think DRM will go bye bye before long. I think the graphics alone will draw many and inspire them to mod the game.