Enough is enough

[oscar19681]

All this endless flow of bashing, discrediting , attacking , and harasing sh-5 can actually do damage. It has moved from the DRM thing to " sh-5 should be released for console " Sh-5 will have sharks with lasers etc etc. To make a long story short i sence that the attack is now focussed on sh-5. The funny thing is nobody has ever played it or seen anything in depth enough to say how it will be. Thuss people feel unsecure about it and start bashing it. I know most of it is focussed at UBI. but i think it will also hurt the devs. But worst of all this could seriously damage the silent hunter series. I can imagine if sails will be bad after release it will be the last silent hunter and you can all be proud becuase you all have contributed to that as well.

[IanC]

Do you really think the success or failure of SH5 rests on the comments we make here? If SH5 fails, it will be because of the direction Ubi is putting it on, not because of our forum comments.
I wish we had that much power!

[Letum]

There are genuine issues that people are unhappy about based on press
releases and what we already know about SHV.

If SHV does not deserve the general public opinion that the majority of
Subsim members are energetically expressing, and if it is also damaging
the game's prospects, then it would easily be fixed by Ubisoft putting
the record straight and showing us our error.

From the fact that this has not happened, we can conclude that either
Ubisoft does not think the negativity is damaging enough to be refuted,
or Ubisoft can not refute the basis of the concerns because they are truthful.

Neither of these possible cases would give us any obligation to stay quiet
about our concerns and grievances.

[Blauritter]

Originally Posted by IanC

Do you really think the success or failure of SH5 rests on the comments we make here? If SH5 fails, it will be because of the direction Ubi is putting it on, not because of our forum comments.
I wish we had that much power!

X2..Ubi is the wrong way ...

[oscar19681]

All i,m saying is give the game a chance. It could be the greatest one yet!

[Brag]

Have Ubi remove DRM/OSP and we'll give SHV a nice push forward. With DRM/OSP included, the game is rubbish and deserves to die

Originally Posted by oscar19681

All i,m saying is give the game a chance. It could be the greatest one yet!

The chance they are having now is on it's way to expire in a month. However situation might change if they tossed out DRM completely.. But I'm affraid it's not going to happen since UBI believes DRM will serve more like money draining machine in future, rather then a counter measure against piracy

[Letum]

Originally Posted by oscar19681

All i,m saying is give the game a chance. It could be the greatest one yet!

When SHV was announced there was much rejoicing and optimism.

That that is no longer the case isn't a result of us forum members being
predisposed to negativity or not giving things a chance. Where that the
cause, the negativity would not be unusual. It is.

Therefor, the dissaperance of the rejoicing and optimism and the
negativity that has since emerged must be a result, not of inherently
negative and bias attitudes, but of what we have been told of the game
so far.

Now it could be that the information we have only focuses on the worst
aspects of the game, but that seams to me unlikely. It is more likely that
the press releases have focused mainly on the best parts of the game.

If you take a rejoicing and optimism crowd, who have not previously
been inclined to negativity, show them mainly the best parts of the game
and they then become negative and worrisome, it does not bode well.

[TDK1044]

Nothing that happens on this Forum will effect Silent Hunter 5 in any way. Historically in the Silent Hunter series, the total percentage of sales from this and other Forums has been a very small number...certainly under 10 percent.

With Silent Hunter 5, Ubisoft has made a business decision to make it an online game targeted at casual gamers. It's therefore understandable that those who wanted the game to continue towards a sim rather than becoming an online arcade experience are critical of this decision.

[Letum]

Don't underestimate the impact of SubSim.
The SHV site doesn't link to subsim on the front page because it is insignificant.

[TDK1044]

Originally Posted by Letum

Don't underestimate the impact of SubSim.
The SHV site doesn't link to subsim on the front page because it is insignificant.

It links to it because it relates to the Silent Hunter series. In terms of sales, this and other such Forums are not a consideration for Ubisoft.

[capthelm]

i do agree, has become quite boring the forums lately on the negative rants on sh5.

ok keep it all in one thread not a new one every 5 secs on sarcastic neg smuck.

[urfisch]

Originally Posted by Letum

Don't underestimate the impact of SubSim.
The SHV site doesn't link to subsim on the front page because it is insignificant.

? insignificant...

[SteamWake]

Feed the flames brother

[Letum]

The SHV site doesn't link to subsim on the front page because it is insignificant.

Originally Posted by urfisch

? insignificant...

Veeery poor choice of words from me.

It should read
The SHV site does link to SubSim and the reason that it does so is
because Subsim has some significance to Ubisoft.