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Old 10-15-09, 11:14 AM   #1
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Default Internet for eeeeveryone!

This is certainly a good news for us Finns who dont live in or around the capital.

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Starting next July, every person in Finland will have the right to a one-megabit broadband connection, says the Ministry of Transport and Communications. Finland is the world's first country to create laws guaranteeing broadband access.
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The government had already decided to make a 100 Mb broadband connection a legal right by the end of 2015. On Wednesday, the Ministry announced the new goal as an intermediary step.


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Old 10-15-09, 11:17 AM   #2
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That is pretty cool.
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Old 10-15-09, 11:32 AM   #3
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BRB moving in with Dowly.
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Old 10-15-09, 11:41 AM   #4
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Who is gonna pay for the infrastructure?
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Aww... I wish they would do that here.
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Pretty cool ... But doesn't Finland have some very remote areas? Considering that my folks back home pay a ludicrously high price for their DSL light, I might convince them to emigrate
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Who is gonna pay for the infrastructure?
I believe it will be an joint effort between the government and the ISP's they select.
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Pretty cool ... But doesn't Finland have some very remote areas? Considering that my folks back home pay a ludicrously high price for their DSL light, I might convince them to emigrate
Yes, that's true. For example my ISP is located in Helsinki, some ~350km away and I wouldnt call my area a 'remote area'. I'm pretty interested to see how the speeds will be in Lapland for example after this.
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I believe it will be an joint effort between the government and the ISP's they select.
In other words you the consumer through taxes and fees.
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In other words you the consumer through taxes and fees.
Well... yes. How else? I mean, arent taxes going to the government for the purpose of it then using them to build stuff and keeping the infrastructure up?
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Well... yes. How else? I mean, arent taxes going to the government for the purpose of it then using them to build stuff and keeping the infrastructure up?
What happens when you don't want an internet connection? Why should you have to pay for it?
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Well... yes. How else? I mean, arent taxes going to the government for the purpose of it then using them to build stuff and keeping the infrastructure up?
But what about those whom dont want it?

Just playin devils advocate here.
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They have the right?

So internet access is now part of human rights too?
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What happens when you don't want an internet connection? Why should you have to pay for it?
Because it's not up to you. You pay taxes for the dimwits and they decide what to do with the money. I mean, my taxes wont go up because of this, so I dont really care. That is, aslong as they spend the money wisely.
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Because it's not up to you. You pay taxes for the dimwits and they decide what to do with the money. I mean, my taxes wont go up because of this, so I dont really care. That is, aslong as they spend the money wisely.
But if your taxes won't go up when they implement this doesn't that mean they were overtaxing you before?
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