Do Alberich or Tarnmatte have any effect in game?

Ford Prefect · 08-04-09, 09:25 PM

Any ideas or proof? Any settings in the game that show what effect it has if any? Uboataces.com says there's no conclusive proof as to either's effectiveness, just claims. It got me to wondering whether it made any difference in game.

TarJak · 08-04-09, 09:26 PM

They have about as much effect as they did in RL.

BulSoldier · 08-05-09, 02:21 AM

So they doesnt worth it ?

meduza · 08-05-09, 04:51 AM

IIRC, they decrease a chance of detection by 10%. It doesn't seam much, but every bit of help comes in handy late in the war.

BulSoldier · 08-05-09, 04:52 AM

I guess but it seems so low chance.What amazed me is that albericht was installed on only 1 operational boat...

Captain Birdseye · 08-05-09, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BulSoldier

I guess but it seems so low chance.What amazed me is that albericht was installed on only 1 operational boat...

I'm no expert on Alberich, but I imagine it would have been costly to apply, and U-Boats are big! I imagine it would cost more than paint or whatever.

However, saying that, most Tiger tanks were fitted out with Zimmerit so I could be wrong.

mookiemookie · 08-05-09, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BulSoldier

I guess but it seems so low chance.What amazed me is that albericht was installed on only 1 operational boat...

They found that, while the idea worked to some extent, the adhesive would fail and flaps of the rubber material would come loose and flap in the current while the boat was underway submerged. The resulting sound made the boat easier to detect by hydrophone, thus cancelling out any benefit of reduced sonar signature.

Jimbuna · 08-05-09, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by meduza

IIRC, they decrease a chance of detection by 10%. It doesn't seam much, but every bit of help comes in handy late in the war.

You remember correctly

konvoijäger 47 · 08-09-09, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ford Prefect

Any ideas or proof? Any settings in the game that show what effect it has if any? Uboataces.com says there's no conclusive proof as to either's effectiveness, just claims. It got me to wondering whether it made any difference in game.

Hello Kaleun;
This documentation is the evidence the stealth mat was very good.
It was unfortunately very late and only 7 boats could so be equipped.

Beste Grüße
Thomas

Mittelwaechter · 08-09-09, 06:50 AM

In the last minutes of part 5 they say 11 U-Boote have been equipped with Alberich and none of them has been sunk by ASDIC operations.

Hanzberger · 08-09-09, 07:50 PM

Is there an English version of this youtube video?

Ford Prefect · 08-09-09, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hanzberger

Is there an English version of this youtube video?

I've left a comment on the first video on behalf of us here who don't understand german (or not well enough) asking if there are any english subtitles available at all.

The german that I know is very basic, limited to the odd phrase and of course, swear words. I can guess a fair bit due to similarities to norwegian but i'm better with the written language than the spoken.

PavelKirilovich · 08-09-09, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Birdseye

However, saying that, most Tiger tanks were fitted out with Zimmerit so I could be wrong.

Zimmerit paste is much less costly than anechoic tiles and is being applied to a smaller vehicle under much easier conditions - one doesn't have to drydock a PzKpfw VI to apply Zimmerit, for example.

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BulSoldier Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Burgas/Bulgaria Posts: 550 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	So they doesnt worth it ? __________________ By the hour !

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meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	IIRC, they decrease a chance of detection by 10%. It doesn't seam much, but every bit of help comes in handy late in the war. __________________

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BulSoldier Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Burgas/Bulgaria Posts: 550 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	I guess but it seems so low chance.What amazed me is that albericht was installed on only 1 operational boat... __________________ By the hour !

08-09-09, 06:50 AM	#10
Mittelwaechter The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	In the last minutes of part 5 they say 11 U-Boote have been equipped with Alberich and none of them has been sunk by ASDIC operations. __________________ 10 happy wolves rear 90 blinded, ensnared sheep. 90 happy sheep banish the wolves. Arrest the 1% - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6hg1oNeGE

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TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	They have about as much effect as they did in RL.

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Hanzberger Helmsman Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 102 Downloads: 140 Uploads: 0	Is there an English version of this youtube video?