SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > General > General Topics
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-03-09, 01:45 AM   #1
Freiwillige
The Old Man
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Phx. Az
Posts: 1,458
Downloads: 24
Uploads: 0
Default Dem's want to increase taxes on middle class...surprise!

Yep their Socialist agenda needs your funding, Freedom isn't taken away for free ya know!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090803/..._pe/us_economy
Freiwillige is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-09, 07:33 AM   #2
August
Wayfaring Stranger
 
August's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,197
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0


Default

If Obama breaks his "Not One More Dime" campaign pledge he'll be a one term President. Just ask George "Read My Lips" Bush Sr.
__________________


Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.
August is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-09, 09:00 AM   #3
SteamWake
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 13,224
Downloads: 5
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by August View Post
If Obama breaks his "Not One More Dime" campaign pledge he'll be a one term President. Just ask George "Read My Lips" Bush Sr.

No this is different dont you get it? Obama will 'have no choice' and be forgiven.

Actually he wont in the long run but it will take some time.
__________________
Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648
SteamWake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-09, 09:02 AM   #4
August
Wayfaring Stranger
 
August's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,197
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SteamWake View Post
No this is different dont you get it? Obama will 'have no choice' and be forgiven.

Actually he wont in the long run but it will take some time.
Yeah, I figure about 3 years or so.
__________________


Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.
August is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-09, 09:05 AM   #5
AVGWarhawk
Lucky Jack
 
AVGWarhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: In a 1954 Buick.
Posts: 28,253
Downloads: 90
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by August View Post
If Obama breaks his "Not One More Dime" campaign pledge he'll be a one term President. Just ask George "Read My Lips" Bush Sr.
Nah, Bush Jr will be blamed for the next three years and into eternity. Obama is teflon for the next three years and into the next 4 after that.
AVGWarhawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-09, 09:11 AM   #6
August
Wayfaring Stranger
 
August's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,197
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk View Post
Nah, Bush Jr will be blamed for the next three years and into eternity. Obama is teflon for the next three years and into the next 4 after that.
I'm sure the Democrats would like you to believe that.
__________________


Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.
August is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-09, 09:16 AM   #7
AVGWarhawk
Lucky Jack
 
AVGWarhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: In a 1954 Buick.
Posts: 28,253
Downloads: 90
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by August View Post
I'm sure the Democrats would like you to believe that.
Oh, they will. They will ride this like a rental car on spring break.
AVGWarhawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-09, 01:15 PM   #8
Tribesman
Stowaway
 
Posts: n/a
Downloads:
Uploads:
Default

Quote:
Obama is teflon for the next three years and into the next 4 after that.
Surely the average American voter can't be as thick as the average Irish voter
The main problem America seems to have is the normal opposition jumping onto wingnut conspiracy theories instead of dealing with issues ...which qute frankly makes the opposition and their supporters appear like a bowl of extremely nutty fruitcakes.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-09, 01:23 PM   #9
FIREWALL
Eternal Patrol
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA
Posts: 10,108
Downloads: 511
Uploads: 0
Default

Middle class has always been the Target and Scapegoat.
__________________
RIP FIREWALL

I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???
FIREWALL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-09, 03:25 PM   #10
Platapus
Fleet Admiral
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 19,360
Downloads: 63
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by August View Post
If Obama breaks his "Not One More Dime" campaign pledge he'll be a one term President. Just ask George "Read My Lips" Bush Sr.
QFT!

This maybe what breaks President Obama's chances for a second term.

Now if only the GOP can offer up a candidate worth a crap they might get my vote back.
__________________
abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.
Platapus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-09, 03:28 PM   #11
Aramike
Ocean Warrior

Best of SUBSIM
Chairman
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 3,207
Downloads: 59
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Platapus View Post
QFT!

This maybe what breaks President Obama's chances for a second term.

Now if only the GOP can offer up a candidate worth a crap they might get my vote back.
This raises a good issue - especially with an incumbent president, COULD a strong GOP candidate win, considering open primaries?

August raises the same point I thought of when I first read this story, but I can't help but think that the Obama/lefty political machine will work hard to assure he would only face a marginal opponent in 2012.
Aramike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-09, 06:03 PM   #12
Onkel Neal
Born to Run Silent
 
Onkel Neal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 1997
Location: Cougar Trap, Texas
Posts: 21,383
Downloads: 541
Uploads: 224


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by August View Post
If Obama breaks his "Not One More Dime" campaign pledge he'll be a one term President. Just ask George "Read My Lips" Bush Sr.
Amen.

Well, he might be a one term President anyway
__________________
SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web
Onkel Neal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-09, 06:49 PM   #13
August
Wayfaring Stranger
 
August's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,197
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aramike View Post
This raises a good issue - especially with an incumbent president, COULD a strong GOP candidate win, considering open primaries?
I've always thought open primaries are a really, REALLY, bad idea. A parties candidate ought to be picked by his own party, not by a bunch of destructive interlopers from the opposition.

Quote:
August raises the same point I thought of when I first read this story, but I can't help but think that the Obama/lefty political machine will work hard to assure he would only face a marginal opponent in 2012.
Well political campaigns are in the midst of a great technology driven change right now. The party that has a better handle on its direction will have the advantage.
__________________


Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.
August is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-09, 07:10 PM   #14
August
Wayfaring Stranger
 
August's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 23,197
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neal Stevens View Post
Amen.

Well, he might be a one term President anyway
Well, whatever happens I hope he leaves office healthy, because if he doesn't I think it woould deal a terrible blow to this country.

Y'see even though I disagree with nearly every one of his political positions, I think he is actually a good thing for our nation and I want him to leave office in four or even eight years in a normal and uneventful manner. This is because he is living proof of our nations belief in racial equality which imo is the glue that holds our huge and varied society together.
__________________


Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.
August is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-09, 12:07 AM   #15
Aramike
Ocean Warrior

Best of SUBSIM
Chairman
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 3,207
Downloads: 59
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by August View Post
I've always thought open primaries are a really, REALLY, bad idea. A parties candidate ought to be picked by his own party, not by a bunch of destructive interlopers from the opposition.



Well political campaigns are in the midst of a great technology driven change right now. The party that has a better handle on its direction will have the advantage.
I agree with you on both points, 100%. I fear that Obama's political machine may have a decided technological edge, and can only hope that the opposition can get a handle on the fact that politics are not only driven by facts, history, and ideas, but personalities.
Aramike is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:19 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2025 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.