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Freiwillige 08-03-09 01:45 AM

Dem's want to increase taxes on middle class...surprise!
 
Yep their Socialist agenda needs your funding, Freedom isn't taken away for free ya know!:down:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090803/..._pe/us_economy

August 08-03-09 07:33 AM

If Obama breaks his "Not One More Dime" campaign pledge he'll be a one term President. Just ask George "Read My Lips" Bush Sr.

SteamWake 08-03-09 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1143984)
If Obama breaks his "Not One More Dime" campaign pledge he'll be a one term President. Just ask George "Read My Lips" Bush Sr.


No this is different dont you get it? Obama will 'have no choice' and be forgiven.

Actually he wont in the long run but it will take some time.

August 08-03-09 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1144013)
No this is different dont you get it? Obama will 'have no choice' and be forgiven.

Actually he wont in the long run but it will take some time.

Yeah, I figure about 3 years or so. :DL

AVGWarhawk 08-03-09 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1143984)
If Obama breaks his "Not One More Dime" campaign pledge he'll be a one term President. Just ask George "Read My Lips" Bush Sr.

Nah, Bush Jr will be blamed for the next three years and into eternity. Obama is teflon for the next three years and into the next 4 after that.

August 08-03-09 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1144018)
Nah, Bush Jr will be blamed for the next three years and into eternity. Obama is teflon for the next three years and into the next 4 after that.

I'm sure the Democrats would like you to believe that.

AVGWarhawk 08-03-09 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1144021)
I'm sure the Democrats would like you to believe that.

Oh, they will. They will ride this like a rental car on spring break. :yep:

Tribesman 08-03-09 01:15 PM

Quote:

Obama is teflon for the next three years and into the next 4 after that.
Surely the average American voter can't be as thick as the average Irish voter
The main problem America seems to have is the normal opposition jumping onto wingnut conspiracy theories instead of dealing with issues ...which qute frankly makes the opposition and their supporters appear like a bowl of extremely nutty fruitcakes.

FIREWALL 08-03-09 01:23 PM

Middle class has always been the Target and Scapegoat.

Platapus 08-03-09 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1143984)
If Obama breaks his "Not One More Dime" campaign pledge he'll be a one term President. Just ask George "Read My Lips" Bush Sr.

QFT!

This maybe what breaks President Obama's chances for a second term.

Now if only the GOP can offer up a candidate worth a crap they might get my vote back.

Aramike 08-03-09 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1144235)
QFT!

This maybe what breaks President Obama's chances for a second term.

Now if only the GOP can offer up a candidate worth a crap they might get my vote back.

This raises a good issue - especially with an incumbent president, COULD a strong GOP candidate win, considering open primaries?

August raises the same point I thought of when I first read this story, but I can't help but think that the Obama/lefty political machine will work hard to assure he would only face a marginal opponent in 2012.

Onkel Neal 08-03-09 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1143984)
If Obama breaks his "Not One More Dime" campaign pledge he'll be a one term President. Just ask George "Read My Lips" Bush Sr.

Amen.

Well, he might be a one term President anyway :cool:

August 08-03-09 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Aramike (Post 1144238)
This raises a good issue - especially with an incumbent president, COULD a strong GOP candidate win, considering open primaries?

I've always thought open primaries are a really, REALLY, bad idea. A parties candidate ought to be picked by his own party, not by a bunch of destructive interlopers from the opposition.

Quote:

August raises the same point I thought of when I first read this story, but I can't help but think that the Obama/lefty political machine will work hard to assure he would only face a marginal opponent in 2012.
Well political campaigns are in the midst of a great technology driven change right now. The party that has a better handle on its direction will have the advantage.

August 08-03-09 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1144299)
Amen.

Well, he might be a one term President anyway :cool:

Well, whatever happens I hope he leaves office healthy, because if he doesn't I think it woould deal a terrible blow to this country.

Y'see even though I disagree with nearly every one of his political positions, I think he is actually a good thing for our nation and I want him to leave office in four or even eight years in a normal and uneventful manner. This is because he is living proof of our nations belief in racial equality which imo is the glue that holds our huge and varied society together.

Aramike 08-04-09 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1144315)
I've always thought open primaries are a really, REALLY, bad idea. A parties candidate ought to be picked by his own party, not by a bunch of destructive interlopers from the opposition.



Well political campaigns are in the midst of a great technology driven change right now. The party that has a better handle on its direction will have the advantage.

I agree with you on both points, 100%. I fear that Obama's political machine may have a decided technological edge, and can only hope that the opposition can get a handle on the fact that politics are not only driven by facts, history, and ideas, but personalities.


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