Another noob question

peabody · 03-01-08, 10:27 PM

Did the WWII torpedos have a distance to go before they were armed, or were they armed coming out of the tubes. I shot one ship that I thought I was on magnify and wasn't and they didn't explode (I have duds turned off), good thing it probably would have blown me up too.

Peabody

jgbishop · 03-01-08, 11:12 PM

Torpedoes have a "reach" of about 300 yards, if I remember correctly. Until they reach that point, they are not armed. When you get a report of "torpedo in the water," it means the torpedo is at the end of the reach and is now armed.

peabody · 03-02-08, 02:23 AM

Thank you, appreciate the answer.

Peabody

NavalSquirrel · 04-07-11, 08:54 PM

Ok, I know this question is old as heck but does anyone have any new info on it? When the crew says "Torpedo in the water" that it cleared the tube. I launched three at a tin can and I eyeballed all three in and nothing. Next two I sent after the blasted thing did a good job and sunk it.

kylesplanet · 04-07-11, 09:50 PM

They won't explode if you are too close. I'm trying to remember but it's 300-400 yards in the stock game.

Hylander_1314 · 04-07-11, 10:43 PM

400 yrds is the run they need to arm the warhead. After that, they are hot fish in the water.

TorpX · 04-08-11, 01:05 AM

IDK about the game, but in RL the arming distances were different for the mk 10 and the mk 14. About 300 or 400 yds IIRC. Torpedos armed in the tubes would have invited catastrophe.

The "reach" was actually the distance the torpedo went before it started turning, and is not the same as the arming distance.

IDK about how the "torpedo in the water" crew message works, but presumably indicates that it is running and can be tracked by sound (as opposed to just sinking). It would be nice if the sound operator track it and report "torpedo running hot, straight and normal", so you would know.

Dogfish40 · 04-08-11, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jgbishop

Torpedoes have a "reach" of about 300 yards, if I remember correctly. Until they reach that point, they are not armed. When you get a report of "torpedo in the water," it means the torpedo is at the end of the reach and is now armed.

This is interesting, and the first time I've heard this; When I get a report of "Torp in the water", That is the point where it's armed??

So it's already 500 yrds out when I get that SO message?!
I thought my fish were firing slow. I can hear the compressed air shoot when I fire (I already have the door open) and it's several seconds before I hear "Torpedo in the water" and this has always bugged me. As was mentioned by TorpX, I would much rather hear "torpedo running hot, straight and normal" as they all seem to do in the game anyway, Duds or not. Since the game never spits out a torpedo that is erratic we could really use a mod that changes the SO's call out. That would be really great!!
Peabody, Welcome aboard!! Good Hunting!
D40

fred8615 · 04-08-11, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dogfish40

Since the game never spits out a torpedo that is erratic we could really use a mod that changes the SO's call out.

Just FYI, yes the game does have erratic torpedoes. If you enabled duds in the options menu, you will get the occasional erratic, especially when you use the Mark 18. I've been hit by a circle runner before, and just yesterday I had one go God knows where.

Armistead · 04-08-11, 02:38 PM

The arming distance in previous versions of TMO was 411 meters or 449.475 yards. Not sure if he's changed that since I last
check, but I doubt it.

I haven't looked at his values for failures, but they exist for circle runners, deep runners, duds, angle of impact, water conditions, etc...

I hate when M18's circle run.....I had some mild damage, but just as I sunk a JP carrier in the bungo, a circle runner finished me off....

Overkill · 04-08-11, 03:40 PM

The Mk18 circle runners can really ruin your day. Fortunately I've only had 2 of 'em in the last 4 years of playing SH4. Didn't get hit by either but they came really close.

Dogfish40 · 04-08-11, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by fred8615

Just FYI, yes the game does have erratic torpedoes. If you enabled duds in the options menu, you will get the occasional erratic, especially when you use the Mark 18. I've been hit by a circle runner before, and just yesterday I had one go God knows where.

Whoops, MyBad. I didn't realize they went erratic as well...
D40

TorpX · 04-09-11, 02:38 AM

I should have added this before, in case everyone doesn't already know this. The torpedos DO make sound and CAN be heard with your hydrophones (if you have time to listen). So, in theory, you could track them and be warned of erratic/ circle runners.

torpedobait · 04-09-11, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogfish40

This is interesting, and the first time I've heard this; When I get a report of "Torp in the water", That is the point where it's armed??

So it's already 500 yrds out when I get that SO message?!
I thought my fish were firing slow. I can hear the compressed air shoot when I fire (I already have the door open) and it's several seconds before I hear "Torpedo in the water" and this has always bugged me. As was mentioned by TorpX, I would much rather hear "torpedo running hot, straight and normal" as they all seem to do in the game anyway, Duds or not. Since the game never spits out a torpedo that is erratic we could really use a mod that changes the SO's call out. That would be really great!!
Peabody, Welcome aboard!! Good Hunting!
D40

Dogfish, the torp is about 300 yards out when you get the message "Torp in the water", not 500. Also, as someone may have pointed out already, you don't get that message if you have a circle runner. I almost lost my boat last night from the latter, but fortunately I had come to a dead stop before firing to avoid closing the range to tight. The circle runner passed about 25 yards of my bow!

Platapus · 04-09-11, 12:20 PM

Perhaps the "torpedo in the water" is meant to be a warning.

If you have not launched a torpedo, but your sound man reports Torpedo in the water, you might have a "situation"

Do Japanese Submarines sink American Subs in SH4?

03-01-08, 10:27 PM	#1
peabody Admiral Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York State, USA Posts: 2,390 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 7	Another noob question Did the WWII torpedos have a distance to go before they were armed, or were they armed coming out of the tubes. I shot one ship that I thought I was on magnify and wasn't and they didn't explode (I have duds turned off), good thing it probably would have blown me up too. Peabody __________________ System Spec: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, PentiumD Dual Core Presler 945 3.4Ghz, Gigabyte Geforce 7600GS, 2-1GB Corsair XMS2 800Mhz in Dual Channel, 2-WD 250 SATA 3Gb/s, Onboard Realtek HD 7.1 Audio, DVD ROM, DVD burner, Hiper 580 Watt Power supply, WinXP SP2.

03-02-08, 02:23 AM	#3
peabody Admiral Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New York State, USA Posts: 2,390 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 7	Thank you, appreciate the answer. Peabody __________________ System Spec: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, PentiumD Dual Core Presler 945 3.4Ghz, Gigabyte Geforce 7600GS, 2-1GB Corsair XMS2 800Mhz in Dual Channel, 2-WD 250 SATA 3Gb/s, Onboard Realtek HD 7.1 Audio, DVD ROM, DVD burner, Hiper 580 Watt Power supply, WinXP SP2.

04-07-11, 09:50 PM	#5
kylesplanet Commodore Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 629 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	They won't explode if you are too close. I'm trying to remember but it's 300-400 yards in the stock game. __________________

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Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,936 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	400 yrds is the run they need to arm the warhead. After that, they are hot fish in the water. __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

04-08-11, 01:05 AM	#7
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	torpedo arming IDK about the game, but in RL the arming distances were different for the mk 10 and the mk 14. About 300 or 400 yds IIRC. Torpedos armed in the tubes would have invited catastrophe. The "reach" was actually the distance the torpedo went before it started turning, and is not the same as the arming distance. IDK about how the "torpedo in the water" crew message works, but presumably indicates that it is running and can be tracked by sound (as opposed to just sinking). It would be nice if the sound operator track it and report "torpedo running hot, straight and normal", so you would know.

03-01-08, 11:12 PM	#2
jgbishop Mate Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 58 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Torpedoes have a "reach" of about 300 yards, if I remember correctly. Until they reach that point, they are not armed. When you get a report of "torpedo in the water," it means the torpedo is at the end of the reach and is now armed.

04-07-11, 08:54 PM	#4
NavalSquirrel Watch Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 19 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	Ok, I know this question is old as heck but does anyone have any new info on it? When the crew says "Torpedo in the water" that it cleared the tube. I launched three at a tin can and I eyeballed all three in and nothing. Next two I sent after the blasted thing did a good job and sunk it.

04-08-11, 02:38 PM	#10
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	The arming distance in previous versions of TMO was 411 meters or 449.475 yards. Not sure if he's changed that since I last check, but I doubt it. I haven't looked at his values for failures, but they exist for circle runners, deep runners, duds, angle of impact, water conditions, etc... I hate when M18's circle run.....I had some mild damage, but just as I sunk a JP carrier in the bungo, a circle runner finished me off....

04-08-11, 03:40 PM	#11
Overkill Frogman Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 302 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	The Mk18 circle runners can really ruin your day. Fortunately I've only had 2 of 'em in the last 4 years of playing SH4. Didn't get hit by either but they came really close. __________________

04-09-11, 02:38 AM	#13
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	I should have added this before, in case everyone doesn't already know this. The torpedos DO make sound and CAN be heard with your hydrophones (if you have time to listen). So, in theory, you could track them and be warned of erratic/ circle runners.

04-09-11, 12:20 PM	#15
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,379 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Perhaps the "torpedo in the water" is meant to be a warning. If you have not launched a torpedo, but your sound man reports Torpedo in the water, you might have a "situation" Do Japanese Submarines sink American Subs in SH4? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.