New Dambusters movie has a name problem!

bookworm_020 · 05-07-09, 06:05 PM

The fight to stay true to the story or change to avoid offending the audience!

http://www.smh.com.au/news/entertain...289313137.html

It's what the dog was called, some people seem to get offended by the slightest thing

Kptlt. Neuerburg · 05-07-09, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020

The fight to stay true to the story or change to avoid offending the audience!

http://www.smh.com.au/news/entertain...289313137.html

It's what the dog was called, some people seem to get offended by the slightest thing

I wouldn't call the N-word a slight thing to get offened about. In the US the N-word is a racial slur now-a-days(even though it was the US that made that word popular.), and lots of people find the use of this word offencive language.

breadcatcher101 · 05-07-09, 06:25 PM

Just call the dog "Afro-American".

Great movie BTW.

AVGWarhawk · 05-07-09, 06:32 PM

Personally, I do not see why the name of the dog would add or detract from the movie. Just have a dog. Call him Skip or something. Using that word was and is derogatory then and now. Really, why have the dog anyway? Does he fly his own plane

SteamWake · 05-07-09, 06:35 PM

Well duh, they just did it to genearate buzz... looks like its workin.

Max2147 · 05-07-09, 06:43 PM

I think it's best to use another name. It would be unfortunate if the hubbub over the dog's name distracted from what should be a great movie.

UnderseaLcpl · 05-07-09, 08:39 PM

How about changing the dog's name to "Cracker" or "Whitey"? I think it would be funny on many levels

bookworm_020 · 05-07-09, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Personally, I do not see why the name of the dog would add or detract from the movie. Just have a dog. Call him Skip or something. Using that word was and is derogatory then and now. Really, why have the dog anyway? Does he fly his own plane

The U.S. versions, as stated in the article, were altered so the name was trigger.

The dog is important as it was killed just before the raid and Gibson changed the code word for success to the dog's name as a tribute.

SteamWake · 05-07-09, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

How about changing the dog's name to "Cracker" or "Whitey"? I think it would be funny on many levels

I approve

GoldenRivet · 05-08-09, 01:19 AM

i say leave it the way it is... i hear "******" and "Cracker" every single day where i live - and never once have i heard it used in the derogatory sense.

strange culture we live in.

you can call your friends the "N word" all day long, every day, 365 days a year then ONE day its going to cause a stir with someone.

however, since the society we live in will utter the phrase daily, however - shun its use on screen - you might as well just name the dog "Niggs" or "Nick" or "Digger"

TarJak · 05-08-09, 02:58 AM

I'm with GR on this.

Why not change the name of Guy Gibson to Person Gibson FFS! if one of the objectives is to be historically accurate then why not with the names of all the characters?

I understand that some people may be offended but this doesn't stop movies about WWII including the swastika a symbol which is equally offensive to some people.

Personally other than the PR buzz I don't see the reason for any fuss to be made.

GoldenRivet · 05-08-09, 03:10 AM

Whatever you UKers do... dont come to America and buy women's undergarments for your sweet heart from an African American Person.

your going to draw some attention asking for the "knickers"

Jimbuna · 05-08-09, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Well duh, they just did it to genearate buzz... looks like its workin.

More than likely.

The dog was called ****** and so it should remain....I thought this movie was based on fact/a series of true historical events?

sharkbit · 05-08-09, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

How about changing the dog's name to "Cracker" or "Whitey"? I think it would be funny on many levels

LOL

Dowly · 05-08-09, 08:05 AM

Oh for f**ks sake! There's dozens and dozens of movies that use the N word in a derogatory sense. Now when a fracking dog is named N- it should be changed? Rrrright..

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Personally, I do not see why the name of the dog would add or detract from the movie. Just have a dog. Call him Skip or something. Using that word was and is derogatory then and now. Really, why have the dog anyway? Does he fly his own plane __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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UnderseaLcpl Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Storming the beaches! Posts: 4,254 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	How about changing the dog's name to "Cracker" or "Whitey"? I think it would be funny on many levels __________________ I stole this sig from Task Force

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GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	i say leave it the way it is... i hear "******" and "Cracker" every single day where i live - and never once have i heard it used in the derogatory sense. strange culture we live in. you can call your friends the "N word" all day long, every day, 365 days a year then ONE day its going to cause a stir with someone. however, since the society we live in will utter the phrase daily, however - shun its use on screen - you might as well just name the dog "Niggs" or "Nick" or "Digger" __________________

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breadcatcher101 Captain Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southeastern USA Posts: 546 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Just call the dog "Afro-American". Great movie BTW.

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Max2147 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 714 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think it's best to use another name. It would be unfortunate if the hubbub over the dog's name distracted from what should be a great movie.

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TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	I'm with GR on this. Why not change the name of Guy Gibson to Person Gibson FFS! if one of the objectives is to be historically accurate then why not with the names of all the characters? I understand that some people may be offended but this doesn't stop movies about WWII including the swastika a symbol which is equally offensive to some people. Personally other than the PR buzz I don't see the reason for any fuss to be made.

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GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Whatever you UKers do... dont come to America and buy women's undergarments for your sweet heart from an African American Person. your going to draw some attention asking for the "knickers" __________________

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Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Oh for f**ks sake! There's dozens and dozens of movies that use the N word in a derogatory sense. Now when a fracking dog is named N- it should be changed? Rrrright..