Someone please explain to me...

SteamWake · 04-24-09, 01:59 PM

What exactly is this supposed to accomplish?

Call me skeptical but anything involving the ACLU should have close scrutiny.

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In a letter from the Justice Department to a federal judge yesterday , the Obama administration announced that the Pentagon would turn over to the American Civil Liberties Union 44 photographs showing detainee abuse of prisoners in Afghanistan and Iraq during the Bush administration.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...adminis-3.html

Schroeder · 04-24-09, 02:09 PM

To make sure it doesn't happen again?

Platapus · 04-24-09, 02:11 PM

Because the ACLU followed the law and submitted a FOIA request?

Platapus · 04-24-09, 02:23 PM

The last administration may not have been everyone's favourite but it was always good for a laugh

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The Bush administration argued that releasing these photographs would violate US obligations towards detainees...

So it was OK to torture them, but we need to follow our obligations toward them. How about our obligations not to torture them?

The United Nations Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, Ratified 21 Oct 94

Article 2 Paragraph 2
"No exceptional circumstances whatsoever, whether a state of war or a threat of war, internal political in stability or any other public emergency, may be invoked as a justification of torture."

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The Bush administration had also argued that releasing the photographs would violated the Geneva Conventions, which protect prisoners of war and detained civilians “against insults and public curiosity."

Excuse me, Mr. President. But the Geneva Conventions also protect these people from TORTURE! So Torture is OK, but suddenly we are concerned with protecting them from insults and public curiosity?

Make up your mind Mr. President. Is they or aint they covered by the Geneva Conventions

You can't just pick and choose what to follow based on what is more convenient.

hy·poc·ri·sy: The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.

I would seriously be laughing, if it were not so pathetic.

SteamWake · 04-24-09, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

To make sure it doesn't happen again?

I thought that was the reason for the interigations in the first place.

AVGWarhawk · 04-24-09, 02:23 PM

Does the ACLU have any jurisdiction in this matter?

Platapus · 04-24-09, 02:24 PM

The ACLU has the right to submit a FOIA, just like any of us.

AVGWarhawk · 04-24-09, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

The ACLU has the right to submit a FOIA, just like any of us.

Does it mean then it will be granted?

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Because the ACLU followed the law and submitted a FOIA request? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Does the ACLU have any jurisdiction in this matter? __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

04-24-09, 02:24 PM	#7
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	The ACLU has the right to submit a FOIA, just like any of us. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.