Another plane goes down

Kapitan_Phillips · 02-13-09, 01:03 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090213/...lane_into_home

Christ

A Very Super Market · 02-13-09, 01:17 AM

Is it just me, or does Buffalo have a disproportionate number of aircraft crashes?

Enigma · 02-13-09, 02:50 AM

49 dead.

Dowly · 02-13-09, 03:07 AM

HunterICX · 02-13-09, 04:19 AM

a horrible accident...

HunterICX

SteamWake · 02-13-09, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

Is it just me, or does Buffalo have a disproportionate number of aircraft crashes?

Its a very busy air corridor.

Just heard about this, its very sad. I spend alot of time on these types of flights.

A couple of times the pilots have either left the cabin door open or there just behind a curtain..

Im not implying anything but it is something to think about.

Enigma · 02-13-09, 11:02 AM

Syxx_Killer · 02-13-09, 11:21 AM

It is really a shame. We have all been kind of "spoiled" by the Hudson River miracle. Up until the now that was about all I heard on the news was something else about Sully. This crash almost feels like a sucker punch. The news has been playing some recordings over and over and it appears so far that there didn't seem to be any problem. The pilot didn't seem alarmed or indicated anything was wrong.

SteamWake · 02-13-09, 11:46 AM

Hrm... turns out this type of aircraft Bombardier Q400 has a somewhat dubious past.

In fact a swedish airline SAS grounded their fleet.. permanatly.

http://se.yhp.waymaker.net/sasgroup/....asp?id=155746

GoldenRivet · 02-13-09, 01:20 PM

I have heard that a lot of "high wing" turbo prop designs like the ATR and the Q400 favor warm flying weather and dont do well in ice.

I have a couple of thousand hours on the SAAB 340 though... that thing is a flying Popsicle... i have proven that a number of times

the only safe ice on an airplane is the ice in the flight attendant's galley cart.

terrible accident

Enigma · 02-13-09, 03:25 PM

Planes landing shortly after the accident report rime ice, too. We'll have to wait and see...

In other news, I just heard a radio news report about "the jet" that crashed in Buffalo....

Enigma · 02-13-09, 03:34 PM

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Hrm... turns out this type of aircraft Bombardier Q400 has a somewhat dubious past.

In fact a swedish airline SAS grounded their fleet.. permanatly.

This was due in large part to a series of landing gear failures/incidents. The only other fatal flight accident with this aircraft that I'm aware of was over 15 years ago. While your not far from the truth in suggesting a "dubious past", as the landing gear issues did produce major head aches for Bombardier, and groundings for carriers, so far the flight record has been pretty good.....

Again, we'll have to wait and see.

02-13-09, 03:35 PM

Btw, is this the same Bombardier-company that used to make snowmobiles and snow coaches? I kinda like the old style snow coaches, they used those to deliver mail up in the very north of Finland back in the -70's when the roads were all clogged up with snow. Example.

Etienne · 02-13-09, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Btw, is this the same Bombardier-company that used to make snowmobiles and snow coaches? I kinda like the old style snow coaches, they used those to deliver mail up in the very north of Finland back in the -70's when the roads were all clogged up with snow. Example.

Yeah, same guys. AFAIK, they still make snowmobiles and Sea-Doo, but I'm not a hundred percent sure.

They make train wagons and stuff like that, as well.

02-13-09, 01:03 AM	#1
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02-13-09, 11:21 AM	#8
Syxx_Killer Admiral Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 2,387 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	It is really a shame. We have all been kind of "spoiled" by the Hudson River miracle. Up until the now that was about all I heard on the news was something else about Sully. This crash almost feels like a sucker punch. The news has been playing some recordings over and over and it appears so far that there didn't seem to be any problem. The pilot didn't seem alarmed or indicated anything was wrong.

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SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Hrm... turns out this type of aircraft Bombardier Q400 has a somewhat dubious past. In fact a swedish airline SAS grounded their fleet.. permanatly. http://se.yhp.waymaker.net/sasgroup/....asp?id=155746

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GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	I have heard that a lot of "high wing" turbo prop designs like the ATR and the Q400 favor warm flying weather and dont do well in ice. I have a couple of thousand hours on the SAAB 340 though... that thing is a flying Popsicle... i have proven that a number of times the only safe ice on an airplane is the ice in the flight attendant's galley cart. terrible accident __________________

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Enigma The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: At comms depth, obviously. Posts: 1,476 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Planes landing shortly after the accident report rime ice, too. We'll have to wait and see... In other news, I just heard a radio news report about "the jet" that crashed in Buffalo.... __________________ "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain

02-13-09, 03:35 PM	#13
OneToughHerring Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Btw, is this the same Bombardier-company that used to make snowmobiles and snow coaches? I kinda like the old style snow coaches, they used those to deliver mail up in the very north of Finland back in the -70's when the roads were all clogged up with snow. Example.