The Battle For Sunday (Religious)

[Syxx_Killer]

I stumbled across this article. What do you guys think about it? It sounds rather troubling to me.

http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=5792.0.111.0

[Thomen]

Originally Posted by Syxx_Killer

I stumbled across this article. What do you guys think about it? It sounds rather troubling to me.

http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=5792.0.111.0

I like having my Sundays off..

[antikristuseke]

Having sundays off is all fine and good, but in keeping with the principle of separation of church and state no such law should be passed.

[AVGWarhawk]

Well, I stopped reading at the first line. 'mandatory....' for who? Catholics? Fine, I'm Episcopalian. Day off for me

[Thomen]

Well, in all fairness, it does not say that people have to go to church, just to observe the Sunday's rest. Ergo, no working on Sundays. Which is perfectly fine with me.

[Thomen]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Well yes I think that's the point, I heard over and over of unions and political partys pushing to have the sunday off mandatory for everybody but until now I had never heard that the church was involved in that.
If the law is passed it will certainly not be by nor for the church, the article sounds kind of weird to me since it makes it looks as if it were a purely religious issue and that it's the church pushing it. But it's a religious paper so I guess this explains that.

Mikhay, out of curiosity.. how is it handled in France, or other European countries? I know that in Germany usually the Sundays rest is observed (except certain industries and vital business and services).

[Digital_Trucker]

Does anyone know where the concept of taking Sunday off to rest came from?

[Thomen]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Overall it's pretty much observed too, on sunday there's the bare minimum working in the public services, and most private businesses are closed too. Some shops and things like that stay opened but the workers are paid double for each hour worked on a sunday (that's in the law), and if I'm not mistaken the shops that stay open on Sunday need a permission from the "Departement" (~State).
At the moment the government is pushing to remove that permission for economic reasons so that anyone anywhere could decide to open on sunday, and the unions and opposition/left are pushing against it for social/worker protection reasons. I don't think the French left is doing that on behalf of the church though

Ahh.. so the same as in Germany.

Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

Does anyone know where the concept of taking Sunday off to rest came from?

Well, it used to be that Saturday was the Sabbath (especially if you're Jewish), but since so many "special" things happen on Sunday (Easter, for instance), that the Catholic Church decided to celebrate that sort of stuff on Sundays (gave a good reason for people to go to church).

BTW, the article in the original link looked so-so until I saw the reference to 'pagan church' and 'Hurbert W Armstrong'. I believe this guy believed "The Pope" (any pope) was actually the anti-christ in the flesh, and that the end times are going to happen "Real Soon, Now!". {sigh}

Yes, it's all a big conspiricy by the Evil Catholic Church to force everyone to Sunday worship, or be forced out of a job, etc. (tin-foil hat stuff).

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Thomen

Well, in all fairness, it does not say that people have to go to church, just to observe the Sunday's rest. Ergo, no working on Sundays. Which is perfectly fine with me.

Means no gasstation open, no restaurant open, no trains, no planes etcetera.

[Thomen]

Originally Posted by Fish

Means no gasstation open, no restaurant open, no trains, no planes etcetera.

You are aware that usually people work in the vital fields on sundays/holidays get paid extra + time off to compensate for that?

EDIT: Furthermore, it is impossible to enforce for all industries and services anyways, that's why there are exceptions for certain industries and services.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Thomen

Well, in all fairness, it does not say that people have to go to church, just to observe the Sunday's rest. Ergo, no working on Sundays. Which is perfectly fine with me.

That is how the Amish take care of it. Although, the do go to church just about all day on Sunday. It is a day of rest.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Zayphod

Well, it used to be that Saturday was the Sabbath (especially if you're Jewish), but since so many "special" things happen on Sunday (Easter, for instance),...

And football!

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

And football!

Beat me to it...

[Skybird]

I like Sundays to be a time-out from the usual routine of buying, working, career-chasing, consuming. For me relgion has nothing to do with it, it is just an opportunity to remind people that there is more than the usual routines of a working and buying week. Whether or not people spend the day mowing the gras in their garden, spend it with their families of freinds, or go to their temples, is unimportant in this context. It's just not all just shops and jobs (at least it shouldn't be) - that is the message.