IJN Jyunsen B : replacing torpedo model with Kaiten model WIP

keltos01 · 11-13-08, 12:46 PM

I got it to replace the stock type 95 model for now, need to get it to replace the Kaiten torpedo that I have in my mod but don't know where it gets its 3d model from

second picture is at a depth of 5 feet, textures still that of type 95

keltos

keltos01 · 11-13-08, 12:47 PM

I appended a 3d chunk to the es torpedo on which my kaiten is modelled, but it revolves !

keltos01 · 11-13-08, 01:28 PM

obviously there are two kaiten models : one that does and one that doesn't spin on that picture...

gotta fiw that, otherwise it's the right model for the torpedo..

keltos

keltos01 · 11-13-08, 01:51 PM

got the texture in, but still have the other model showing up and spinning

keltos01 · 11-13-08, 02:03 PM

I removed the highlighted node

I removed node 259 after assigning the parent id of the main torpedo node to the node 261, looks like it did the trick and removed the second spinning sub ...

keltos01 · 11-13-08, 02:09 PM

depth 3.5 feet :

from the surface :

submerged view :

As the game does only allow for six bow tubes so far and the kaiten were normally launched from a submerged submarine I guess we'll have to contend ourselves with the firing from the subs' tubes, although the model is that of a Kaiten now and not of a torpedo !

I wonder if DD will shoot at the periscope :hmm:

keltos

Kaiten patch version 1.0 for IJN torpedo mod or IJN Jyunsen B ... version 3.0 mod :

http://files.filefront.com/Kaiten+pa.../fileinfo.html

mobius22 · 11-13-08, 04:15 PM

Good God, man! That is awesome!

G.K. · 11-13-08, 04:49 PM

Excellent... simply excellent... Can I ask about the ( possible ) homing system? In RL there was one, or no

peabody · 11-13-08, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.K.

Excellent... simply excellent... Can I ask about the ( possible ) homing system? In RL there was one, or no

A Kaiten is a torpedo with a man inside that drives it to the target. And yes they were real. I think in game the homing device was to 'simulate' a driver steering it, otherwise it would just act like a normal torpedo.

Peabody

keltos01 · 11-13-08, 06:03 PM

Correct.

I modelled it on the german T V accoustic torpedo, so the problem is the Kaiten doesn't see the ennemy, it hears it...

I wonder if we could set the sensor for it as "eyeball" and place it on top of the periscope...

Kaitens had a short periscope but it was no good in low light conditions, especially at night. The scope could be lowered, in game it can't.

The explosive power was computed from RL : 3400 pounds of type 97 explosive, about 1.2 times that of TNT.

Keltos

peabody · 11-13-08, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keltos01

Correct.

I modelled it on the german T V accoustic torpedo, so the problem is the Kaiten doesn't see the ennemy, it hears it...

I wonder if we could set the sensor for it as "eyeball" and place it on top of the periscope...

Kaitens had a short periscope but it was no good in low light conditions, especially at night. The scope could be lowered, in game it can't.

The explosive power was computed from RL : 3400 pounds of type 97 explosive, about 1.2 times that of TNT.

Keltos

Does this need any special 'depth' setting, or is it set to use the default depth? I could easily set a 'test mission' to see if the DDs shoot at it. It probably moves quite fast though doesn't it?

Peabody

keltos01 · 11-14-08, 01:47 AM

have to check but the depth should be in the mod I posted on FF in the torpedo.sim, I changed it to 3.5 feet, and yes it's fast, maybe too much so and too great a range from whatt I read in I-boat captain.

Feel free to try !

btw loved that carrier mission of yours, kaiten sunk the fleet carrier !

keltos

G.K. · 11-14-08, 08:35 AM

Thanks for explanation, I just wanted to know how to simulate the driver inside...

keltos01 · 11-14-08, 02:18 PM

if you look in the .sim there are only so many torpedo types hardwired, and we can't create new sensors...

we'd need an AI ship node for the Kaiten...

keltos

keltos01 · 11-14-08, 05:06 PM

edited it with S3D, got a hint about the camera icon from Mikhayl, the 3d model of a new 3d node doesn't appear untill you've clicked on the camera icon...

Respective sizes Kaiten vs normal torpedoes :

I exported the 3d model of the propellers, scaled them up a bit, added a 3d model to the propeller 01 and 02 nodes, re-imported them, moved them with the beautiful tool that S3D is

and there ! Oh, I also removed the wiskers at the front as kaitens didn't have them.

Did you know that the first designed kaitens had as prerequisite an ejection seat for the driver ???

could anyone mod that ? :rotfl:

Keltos

11-13-08, 12:46 PM	#1
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	IJN Jyunsen B : replacing torpedo model with Kaiten model WIP I got it to replace the stock type 95 model for now, need to get it to replace the Kaiten torpedo that I have in my mod but don't know where it gets its 3d model from second picture is at a depth of 5 feet, textures still that of type 95 keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships" Last edited by keltos01; 11-13-08 at 12:47 PM.

11-13-08, 12:47 PM	#2
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	I appended a 3d chunk to the es torpedo on which my kaiten is modelled, but it revolves ! __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships" Last edited by keltos01; 11-13-08 at 12:54 PM.

11-13-08, 01:28 PM	#3
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	obviously there are two kaiten models : one that does and one that doesn't spin on that picture... gotta fiw that, otherwise it's the right model for the torpedo.. keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

11-13-08, 01:51 PM	#4
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	got the texture in, but still have the other model showing up and spinning __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

11-13-08, 02:03 PM	#5
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	I removed the highlighted node I removed node 259 after assigning the parent id of the main torpedo node to the node 261, looks like it did the trick and removed the second spinning sub ... __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

11-13-08, 02:09 PM	#6
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	depth 3.5 feet : from the surface : submerged view : As the game does only allow for six bow tubes so far and the kaiten were normally launched from a submerged submarine I guess we'll have to contend ourselves with the firing from the subs' tubes, although the model is that of a Kaiten now and not of a torpedo ! I wonder if DD will shoot at the periscope :hmm: keltos Kaiten patch version 1.0 for IJN torpedo mod or IJN Jyunsen B ... version 3.0 mod : http://files.filefront.com/Kaiten+pa.../fileinfo.html __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships" Last edited by keltos01; 11-13-08 at 06:09 PM.

11-13-08, 04:15 PM	#7
mobius22 Seaman Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 32 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Good God, man! That is awesome!

11-13-08, 04:49 PM	#8
G.K. Loader Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Anchoring at Vltava River, Czech Republic Posts: 84 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Excellent... simply excellent... Can I ask about the ( possible ) homing system? In RL there was one, or no __________________ http://silenthunter.cz/forum Proud officer of the biggest Czech SH Community

11-13-08, 06:03 PM	#10
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	Correct. I modelled it on the german T V accoustic torpedo, so the problem is the Kaiten doesn't see the ennemy, it hears it... I wonder if we could set the sensor for it as "eyeball" and place it on top of the periscope... Kaitens had a short periscope but it was no good in low light conditions, especially at night. The scope could be lowered, in game it can't. The explosive power was computed from RL : 3400 pounds of type 97 explosive, about 1.2 times that of TNT. Keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

11-14-08, 01:47 AM	#12
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	have to check but the depth should be in the mod I posted on FF in the torpedo.sim, I changed it to 3.5 feet, and yes it's fast, maybe too much so and too great a range from whatt I read in I-boat captain. Feel free to try ! btw loved that carrier mission of yours, kaiten sunk the fleet carrier ! keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

11-14-08, 08:35 AM	#13
G.K. Loader Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Anchoring at Vltava River, Czech Republic Posts: 84 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Thanks for explanation, I just wanted to know how to simulate the driver inside... __________________ http://silenthunter.cz/forum Proud officer of the biggest Czech SH Community

11-14-08, 02:18 PM	#14
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	if you look in the .sim there are only so many torpedo types hardwired, and we can't create new sensors... we'd need an AI ship node for the Kaiten... keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

11-14-08, 05:06 PM	#15
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	edited it with S3D, got a hint about the camera icon from Mikhayl, the 3d model of a new 3d node doesn't appear untill you've clicked on the camera icon... Respective sizes Kaiten vs normal torpedoes : I exported the 3d model of the propellers, scaled them up a bit, added a 3d model to the propeller 01 and 02 nodes, re-imported them, moved them with the beautiful tool that S3D is and there ! Oh, I also removed the wiskers at the front as kaitens didn't have them. Did you know that the first designed kaitens had as prerequisite an ejection seat for the driver ??? could anyone mod that ? :rotfl: Keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"