AOB Made Easy... video by me!

GoldenRivet · 11-12-08, 11:42 AM

in light of the AOB help thread.... and the many that came before it, i have made this video.

Please critique it and leave comments on YouTube (also my first youtube upload)

meduza · 11-12-08, 12:22 PM

Good video.

Especially the music

There's another easy AOB finding method, if you know the target's course. Set your course perpendicular to the course of target. Set your periscope or UZO to the bearing 0. Set the AOB to 90 and make sure you have the TDC turned on before you move the perisciope. As long as you maintain the course, and have the TDC on, you will have correct AOB for any ship moving on the same course. Good for convoys.

GoldenRivet · 11-12-08, 12:28 PM

thanks, i particularly like the ending

Kpt. Lehmann · 11-12-08, 12:40 PM

Nice work GR!!!

Have you got a downloadable version? Would be nice to have.

I keep a folder for collecting targetting method material.

(I imagine others do as well.)

Laufen zum Ziel · 11-12-08, 01:40 PM

Very Well done both in content & production.

Would like your permission to mirror in SHA..

GoldenRivet · 11-12-08, 01:57 PM

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I think it is there.

plus a paper plotting tutorial I had LONG forgotten about

so if anyone is also interested in doing plots on paper, there is a decent starter method.

GoldenRivet · 11-12-08, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laufen zum Ziel

Very Well done both in content & production.

Would like your permission to mirror in SHA..

sure, go right ahead. whats mine is yours

i have it on filefront now... see above post (whichever method is best for your needs)

Kpt. Lehmann · 11-12-08, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

GoldenRivet Profile, GoldenRivet Details - FileFront.com

I think it is there.

plus a paper plotting tutorial I had LONG forgotten about

so if anyone is also interested in doing plots on paper, there is a decent starter method.

Thanks GR!

Red Heat · 11-12-08, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

in light of the AOB help thread.... and the many that came before it, i have made this video.

Please critique it and leave comments on YouTube (also my first youtube upload)

I personaly thinks its very easy and intuitive to understand...the steps have the information you need...just one thing i dont apreciated much the music...but the must important of all is THERE!

Great job!

Pisces · 11-12-08, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Please critique it and leave comments on YouTube (also my first youtube upload)

I got sidetracked by the Pink Panther music. And now I got to watch it again.

... Oops, this is not on youtube as you requested.

IanC · 11-12-08, 07:04 PM

Btw how did the real guys do it? They couln't have marked an x, wait a minute, then mark another x, like we do in the game. Just a general idea would be fine.

GoldenRivet · 11-12-08, 07:09 PM

one process that could be used

1. Observe target through scope
2. note bearing and range
3. plot the bearing and range to target on a piece of paper
4. after a few minutes make a second observation of bearing and range
5. plot the second observation on paper
6. then calculate target speed based on distance covered and time it took
7. AOB could be roughly estimated
8. shoot

something like that

i was feeling a bit "loopy" so the pink panther music felt appropriately goofy

i was going to put in something all dark and haunting for music but i decided to throw you a curve

IanC · 11-12-08, 07:26 PM

Interesting :hmm:

UberTorpedo · 11-13-08, 02:06 AM

GR

Nice.

Music was unusual... but it works!!!

cheers
UT

joegrundman · 11-13-08, 02:41 AM

The real guys just looked at the target and estimated AOB - and i think it's just not that hard to do in the game after a bit of practice

however with the earlier monocular periscope German kaleuns also used the aspect ratio in conjunction with the split-prism stadimeter to calculate AOB, a method simulated in the U-jagd tools mod

plotting was not so easy without a good aob estimate because getting accurate range estimates at long ranges was not so easy - you didn't know the exact mast-height of the target so plots may have taken a long time, and you didn't have automatic map contact updates either. But knowing aob can help with the long-range plot a lot, and again the aob is best guestimated by looking at it

11-12-08, 11:42 AM	#1
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	AOB Made Easy... video by me! in light of the AOB help thread.... and the many that came before it, i have made this video. Please critique it and leave comments on YouTube (also my first youtube upload) __________________

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meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Good video. Especially the music There's another easy AOB finding method, if you know the target's course. Set your course perpendicular to the course of target. Set your periscope or UZO to the bearing 0. Set the AOB to 90 and make sure you have the TDC turned on before you move the perisciope. As long as you maintain the course, and have the TDC on, you will have correct AOB for any ship moving on the same course. Good for convoys. __________________

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GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	thanks, i particularly like the ending __________________

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Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,992 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Nice work GR!!! Have you got a downloadable version? Would be nice to have. I keep a folder for collecting targetting method material. (I imagine others do as well.) __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock Last edited by Kpt. Lehmann; 11-12-08 at 12:40 PM.

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Laufen zum Ziel Eternal Patrol Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hiding on the bottom Posts: 1,783 Downloads: 853 Uploads: 457	Very Well done both in content & production. Would like your permission to mirror in SHA.. __________________ RIP Laufen zum Ziel

11-12-08, 01:57 PM	#6
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	GoldenRivet Profile, GoldenRivet Details - FileFront.com I think it is there. plus a paper plotting tutorial I had LONG forgotten about so if anyone is also interested in doing plots on paper, there is a decent starter method. __________________

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IanC Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Running silent and deep Posts: 902 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Btw how did the real guys do it? They couln't have marked an x, wait a minute, then mark another x, like we do in the game. Just a general idea would be fine.

11-12-08, 07:09 PM	#12
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	one process that could be used 1. Observe target through scope 2. note bearing and range 3. plot the bearing and range to target on a piece of paper 4. after a few minutes make a second observation of bearing and range 5. plot the second observation on paper 6. then calculate target speed based on distance covered and time it took 7. AOB could be roughly estimated 8. shoot something like that i was feeling a bit "loopy" so the pink panther music felt appropriately goofy i was going to put in something all dark and haunting for music but i decided to throw you a curve __________________

11-12-08, 07:26 PM	#13
IanC Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Running silent and deep Posts: 902 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Interesting :hmm:

11-13-08, 02:06 AM	#14
UberTorpedo Planesman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 194 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	GR Nice. Music was unusual... but it works!!! cheers UT __________________ Download Link for Mods and Other Goodies...

11-13-08, 02:41 AM	#15
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	The real guys just looked at the target and estimated AOB - and i think it's just not that hard to do in the game after a bit of practice however with the earlier monocular periscope German kaleuns also used the aspect ratio in conjunction with the split-prism stadimeter to calculate AOB, a method simulated in the U-jagd tools mod plotting was not so easy without a good aob estimate because getting accurate range estimates at long ranges was not so easy - you didn't know the exact mast-height of the target so plots may have taken a long time, and you didn't have automatic map contact updates either. But knowing aob can help with the long-range plot a lot, and again the aob is best guestimated by looking at it __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill