Iceland and Russia

Happy Times · 10-09-08, 10:48 PM

There are worrying developments about Russia planning to utilise the economic crisis in Iceland for its strategic intrests. This a time that Nordic countries, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland should help Iceland by all means possible, they are tough, so they probably dont except anything that is beyond our means.

baggygreen · 10-09-08, 11:08 PM

I gotta say I haven't heard a peep anywhere about it?

Happy Times · 10-09-08, 11:15 PM

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I gotta say I haven't heard a peep anywhere about it?

I found this in english, im sure there are other analysis to be found.

http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/200...d_russian_loan

Kazuaki Shimazaki II · 10-10-08, 12:02 AM

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There are worrying developments about Russia planning to utilise the economic crisis in Iceland for its strategic intrests. This a time that Nordic countries, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland should help Iceland by all means possible, they are tough, so they probably dont except anything that is beyond our means.

Oh, the evil Russians. How dare they use what they have to advance their own interests...

SUBMAN1 · 10-10-08, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times

There are worrying developments about Russia planning to utilise the economic crisis in Iceland for its strategic intrests. This a time that Nordic countries, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland should help Iceland by all means possible, they are tough, so they probably dont except anything that is beyond our means.

Oh, the evil Russians. How dare they use what they have to advance their own interests...

I agree, to a point. Just as long as they don't use their muscle to advance their own interests.

-S

Happy Times · 10-10-08, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times

There are worrying developments about Russia planning to utilise the economic crisis in Iceland for its strategic intrests. This a time that Nordic countries, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland should help Iceland by all means possible, they are tough, so they probably dont except anything that is beyond our means.

Oh, the evil Russians. How dare they use what they have to advance their own interests...

And we dont have the right to defend ours?

CCIP · 10-10-08, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times

There are worrying developments about Russia planning to utilise the economic crisis in Iceland for its strategic intrests. This a time that Nordic countries, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland should help Iceland by all means possible, they are tough, so they probably dont except anything that is beyond our means.

Oh, the evil Russians. How dare they use what they have to advance their own interests...

And we dont have the right to defend ours?

Again, as Subman said there - just as long as you don't get overly muscular about it. From the Russian perspective, they're "defending" interests too.

In fairness, I'm not one bit fond of Russia's overtures in the Arctic. Way to destabilize things, Tzar Putin.

XabbaRus · 10-10-08, 02:41 AM

Oh joy what a surprise from Happy Times. Smart move by the Russians. Also I doubt Russia is going to move in, they know what would happen.

This isn't the first time that Russia has helped out Iceland when her allies wouldn't.

1950s cod wars. USSR bought up all the spare cod that the UK stopped importing.

Skybird · 10-10-08, 03:28 AM

Be advised that German Bundeswehr depends on Russian airlifters to act internationally since 18 years. If we do not get relieved soon by NATO, Russian hordes will overrun Berlin before x-mas.

stabiz · 10-10-08, 06:52 AM

Ah, damn it. Again?

Happy Times · 10-10-08, 08:56 AM

Something should have been worked out between Norway and EU, but as EU didnt care that shouldnt prevent nordic members from lifting their sleeves. Monetary solutions, investments and joint ventures in oil, gas, refiniment, shipbulding etc. can all be found with nordic co-operation. The Russians clearly had some of the Icelandic bankers and politicians in their pocket before this, like was suspected for some time, this just revealed it.

Diopos · 10-10-08, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II

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Originally Posted by Happy Times

There are worrying developments about Russia planning to utilise the economic crisis in Iceland for its strategic intrests. This a time that Nordic countries, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland should help Iceland by all means possible, they are tough, so they probably dont except anything that is beyond our means.

Oh, the evil Russians. How dare they use what they have to advance their own interests...

I agree, to a point. Just as long as they don't use their muscle to advance their own interests.

-S

So they can do US a favor by bailing out Iceland and not altering the "balance of influence" over there? ... I don't think it works that way!:hmm:

XabbaRus · 10-10-08, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times

Something should have been worked out between Norway and EU, but as EU didnt care that shouldnt prevent nordic members from lifting their sleeves. Monetary solutions, investments and joint ventures in oil, gas, refiniment, shipbulding etc. can all be found with nordic co-operation. The Russians clearly had some of the Icelandic bankers and politicians in their pocket before this, like was suspected for some time, this just revealed it.

Do you have any sources on that?

JHuschke · 10-10-08, 04:03 PM

Well, we certainly can't and have no right to tell other countries how to run theirs or what to do..that is not right. But everyone has a right to defense, even if it was Germany attacking Russia, Russia has a right to defending themselves. Everyone does..

Hitman · 10-11-08, 02:26 AM

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There are worrying developments about Russia planning to utilise the economic crisis in Iceland for its strategic intrests

You mean they are going to do the same as the western powers have been doing all the time? Shame on them, how can they be so dirty?

I'm really getting fed up of all this anti-russian thing. When there are big troubles at home, the cheap and easy solution of pointing out the enemy outside begins to smell really rotten

10-09-08, 10:48 PM	#1
Happy Times Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 2,950 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Iceland and Russia There are worrying developments about Russia planning to utilise the economic crisis in Iceland for its strategic intrests. This a time that Nordic countries, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland should help Iceland by all means possible, they are tough, so they probably dont except anything that is beyond our means.

10-10-08, 02:41 AM	#8
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Oh joy what a surprise from Happy Times. Smart move by the Russians. Also I doubt Russia is going to move in, they know what would happen. This isn't the first time that Russia has helped out Iceland when her allies wouldn't. 1950s cod wars. USSR bought up all the spare cod that the UK stopped importing. __________________

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Be advised that German Bundeswehr depends on Russian airlifters to act internationally since 18 years. If we do not get relieved soon by NATO, Russian hordes will overrun Berlin before x-mas. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Ah, damn it. Again? __________________

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baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	I gotta say I haven't heard a peep anywhere about it?

10-10-08, 08:56 AM	#11
Happy Times Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 2,950 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Something should have been worked out between Norway and EU, but as EU didnt care that shouldnt prevent nordic members from lifting their sleeves. Monetary solutions, investments and joint ventures in oil, gas, refiniment, shipbulding etc. can all be found with nordic co-operation. The Russians clearly had some of the Icelandic bankers and politicians in their pocket before this, like was suspected for some time, this just revealed it.

10-10-08, 04:03 PM	#14
JHuschke XO Join Date: May 2008 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 432 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Well, we certainly can't and have no right to tell other countries how to run theirs or what to do..that is not right. But everyone has a right to defense, even if it was Germany attacking Russia, Russia has a right to defending themselves. Everyone does..