The Presidential Debate- Who won?

[JHuschke]

For a moment, forget whether you are a republican or a democrat, and who honestly won the debate?

[UnderseaLcpl]

This is something of a redundant thread, but my answer remains the same

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=142535

[Task Force]

McCain, and Obama are kind of strange in my opinion.:hmm: In reality, I think they are both incompitent.
Ya know now that I think about it. This poll should have a nither option. I think nither will be a good president.

[Zachstar]

Obama

Even if you are a repub you have to admit that Obama took away a BIG McCain chance to gain the lead today and the remaining debates will only mean disaster.

[1480]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Obama

Even if you are a repub you have to admit that Obama took away a BIG McCain chance to gain the lead today and the remaining debates will only mean disaster.

Obama is biracial man who threw the woman that raised him (his grandmother) under the bus stating:

"I can no more disown (the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.) than I can disown my white grandmother, a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe."

This bigot will toss the woman who gave her all to raise him under the bus to get himself elected. Wright is a racist who earns money from making false statements about whites and America, and still, people want to vote for BHO....

[Platapus]

I think it was more a tie.

Both McCain and Obama came out strong. Each one kinda fudged some facts, but each was able to state their positions clearly.

I think that McCain was a bit more nasty but it was a debate after all.
I think that Obama spent too much time talking about the past and not the future.

I thought some of the questions about the current economic issue were a bit unfair as Obama clearly stated that neither of them has seen the final draft because there is no one single final draft. It is still being worked on.

But overall, I don't think either candidate messed up or especially shined.

It was a good first debate. I think it was a tie.

Now that both sides have shot their main political loads, let's see what they will talk about in the next debate. The second debate may give more information than the first.

Of course the VP debate will be popular just for the entertainment value. I imagine more people will watch that train wreck than watched this debate.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by 1480

And how is this "throwing her under the bus" (what ever that means).

It sounds more like being totally honest. I loved my Grand Parents. My grandfather was a racist. I did not like him being a racist but I still loved him as my grandfather. He was a good hard working man who took care of his family in very very hard times.

But he made disparaging remarks about Italians (especially catholic Italians). But he still was my grandfather. He was not perfect, nor did I agree with everything he said.

Did I just throw my grandfather "under the bus"?

Obama is talking about how much his grandmother loved him but that she confessed an irrational fear and made racial remarks. But despite these facts, he loved her and respected her.

Honesty about his grandmother. Is this really bad?

Should he have lied about his grandmother? Is that what you wanted?

[Jimbuna]

I'm not a US citizen and don't claim to understand everything about US politics, but from what I saw on TV you folk have as dire a choice of leaders as we do in the UK.

[Digital_Trucker]

I learned quite a bit about both men when they were introduced. McCain came out looking at Obama and Obama came out looking at the crowd and waving. They both stretched facts (and maybe invented a few). They both had good and bad points. Obama admitted on several occasions that he agreed with McCain. For an "educated man" Obama sure says "we gotta" and "uh" a lot. Who spoke the most calmly during the entire debate and who got nervous and rattled and stammered? Obama blew it, IMHO.

[Task Force]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

I'm not a US citizen and don't claim to understand everything about US politics, but from what I saw on TV you folk have as dire a choice of leaders as we do in the UK.

In my opinion... You Got it.:rotfl:

[Kapt Z]

Originally Posted by Platapus

And how is this "throwing her under the bus" (what ever that means).

It sounds more like being totally honest. I loved my Grand Parents. My grandfather was a racist. I did not like him being a racist but I still loved him as my grandfather. He was a good hard working man who took care of his family in very very hard times.

But he made disparaging remarks about Italians (especially catholic Italians). But he still was my grandfather. He was not perfect, nor did I agree with everything he said.

Did I just throw my grandfather "under the bus"?

Obama is talking about how much his grandmother loved him but that she confessed an irrational fear and made racial remarks. But despite these facts, he loved her and respected her.

Honesty about his grandmother. Is this really bad?

Should he have lied about his grandmother? Is that what you wanted?

I think Obama's speech was the best one I have heard in a long time. Certainly the most honest talk about race relations in years. We need a lot more of that in this country.

[Kapt Z]

Oh, I didn't watch the debate. Sounds like it was a tie from the bits I picked up. Not suprising. I'll try and see the next one. The VP debate should be more interesting. :hmm:

[geetrue]

Remember George Bush lost the first two debates with Senator Kerry four years ago and then took an agressive, get in your face, stance for the third debate, winning the debate and then winning the election by over 3,000,000 votes the largest winning percentage in American election history.

McCain's voice cracked a couple of times, but I think he did well to keep pounding on the subject that Obama is not ready to take the helm of a country this big.

Obama will become a better senator after this election so he can have a better chance in 2012 with at least four more years of experience he should do much better (not just in the polls, but in the actual race), but so will Mrs Clinton all the while saying, "Obama should've chose me for a running mate"

[SimNut]

I think Obama won.

[SteamWake]

Just a stage show anyhow.

Who 'won' seems to depend on which network you were listening to at the time.

Personally I dident watch most of it so I dident vote.